How active will the Rangers be this offseason?
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-09 4:00 AM (#676454)
Subject: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Jun 8 | 5:42PM

6/8/17 | Elliotte Friedman was on the NHL Network on Thursday afternoon and regarding Kevin Shattenkirk, said, "we've all heard the rumors about the Rangers. I'm really curious about the Rangers direction this summer. I think there is a chance that they could decide to just go young."

6/5/17 | On his podcast, Bob McKenzie was going around the league and giving an overview of how teams may handle the coming offseason and spoke about the Rangers.

McKenzie said, "Keep an eye on the New York Rangers, I think they are going to be very active. Lots of talk about what they might do to continue to transition into a younger team."

It's been speculated that the Rangers could make some big moves this summer.

It was said at times during last year's offseason that the Rangers were expected to be one of the more active teams.

With the cap at $73 million, the Rangers have about $9.2 million in cap space.

Adam Rotter: So much of what the Rangers will or won't be able to do this summer likely revolves around which defensemen the Rangers can move, what they need to give up with those defensemen and what they get back in return. The expansion draft also impacts that and there will be questions about the Rangers core, outside of Staal and Girardi, and if any of those guys will be moved. Kevin Shattenkirk is the most prominent name but to sign him, and to re-sign Mika Zibanejad, the Rangers will need to move some pieces out to clear salary. I'd expect the Rangers to be active in doing whatever they can to upgrade on defense but they are far from the only team looking to do that and may not want to or have the assets to get into certain bidding wars. Things are expected to heat up shortly but the same was said last year and we kept waiting and waiting for moves through the Draft and July 1 but nothing much happened until the the middle of July when the Brassard/Zibanejad trade was made.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
robstones
Posted 2017-06-09 10:49 AM (#676456 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 11595
10000
Location: New Jersey
I don't remember talks last year about Rangers making big moves. Last year was all about Vesey and Buchnevich.... Wanting to upgrade the defense, but never sure how to do that... Trouba?

This year has a nobody is safe except for maybe Zuccarello feel to it.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-09 11:29 AM (#676457 - in reply to #676456)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
robstones - 2017-06-09 10:49 AM

I don't remember talks last year about Rangers making big moves. Last year was all about Vesey and Buchnevich.... Wanting to upgrade the defense, but never sure how to do that... Trouba?

This year has a nobody is safe except for maybe Zuccarello feel to it.


I feel as though the Ranger brass is done with this core group and will have no problem making a splash as McKenzie suggests, I also believe they realize the "Hanke window" is closing faster than they expected. I will not be surprised if "big" moves happen. With that said, if this was Brooks saying it I might not buy into it but McKenzie has a little bit more credibility IMO

Edited by RANGERNUT 2017-06-09 11:30 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-10 4:20 AM (#676460 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Regular

Posts: 499
250
The team is non competitive from a cup contending standpoint. They need major changes.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-10 6:29 AM (#676461 - in reply to #676460)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 15404
10000
I don't see major changes unless AV is gone...however, IF major changes do happen, I would expect AV to be on his way out the door as he will be a "lame duck" coach (hard to imagine he can get any lamer....).
Top of the page Bottom of the page
itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-10 3:53 PM (#676464 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Regular

Posts: 499
250
You would be wrong. Gorton doesn't listen to AV every second of every day. Stepan is too slow for this system. So, he will be gone. Nash to me plays well if he was making 3 million a season. At his salary with one year left he's an easy dump. Trade those two and you can protect Lindberg and Fast. Rangers need to get back picks and NHL ready prospects who can't be taken by Vegas. IMO, Miller's bad playoff was a fluke. His game projects to the playoffs. Hayes while sucking in the playoffs in several areas was actually excellent on draws. I think those guys will figure out the playoffs. This team isn't going to fall to pieces without Nash and Stepan. Look for Vesey who looked good in the playoffs to take a big step up. Hopefully, Buchnevich will be 10 to 15 pounds heavier. You can see his mind can think the game at a high level. I love Gropp going forward. His wrist shot will be one of the best from the second he is in the NHL. Graves will make this defense with his eyes closed. If they can't deal Girardi they will buy him out. If Staal won't waive his NTC he will play the rest of his career in the minors. He has no place on this team. Klein will also be dealt. I would think they would deal Raanta because they will get a nice return for him. Huge changes are coming.

Edited by itsmcilrathtime 2017-06-10 3:55 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NTHockey
Posted 2017-06-11 5:34 AM (#676467 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2111
1000
Location: Delaware, USA
If the Rangers would be ok with sending Staal to the minors, why not do the same with Girardi? Save on the cap hit for both and they could be emergency call ups. There's not much chance either would be claimed on waivers. I'm ok with trading Stepan, so long as we get a center who can win face offs. Nash would fit in very well on a small town team (Carolina, Winnipeg, Calgary). Nashville might be interested if Fisher retires, as rumored.

The market for goaltenders is made up of has beens and never was, with Scott Darling and maybe Chad Johnson may be what Rangers need (assuming they can't keep Raanta). IMHO, keeping Raanta is the better than signing an unknown.

BTW, wouldn't a line of Buchnevich-Zibanejad-Zuccarello be a mouthful?



Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-11 9:07 AM (#676470 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
How much can they do? Sather F'd this team beyond repair....Nash, MSL, Yandle trades and the picks that went with it....albatross contracts to Staal and Girardi and Henrik
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mcphee
Posted 2017-06-11 11:23 AM (#676471 - in reply to #676467)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Rookie

Posts: 205
50
NTHockey - 2017-06-11 7:34 AM

If the Rangers would be ok with sending Staal to the minors, why not do the same with Girardi? Save on the cap hit for both and they could be emergency call ups. There's not much chance either would be claimed on waivers. I'm ok with trading Stepan, so long as we get a center who can win face offs. Nash would fit in very well on a small town team (Carolina, Winnipeg, Calgary). Nashville might be interested if Fisher retires, as rumored.





They can't send Staal or Girardi to the minors because they have no movement clauses.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NTHockey
Posted 2017-06-11 3:47 PM (#676474 - in reply to #676471)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2111
1000
Location: Delaware, USA
Mcphee - 2017-06-11 1:23 PM

NTHockey - 2017-06-11 7:34 AM

If the Rangers would be ok with sending Staal to the minors, why not do the same with Girardi? Save on the cap hit for both and they could be emergency call ups. There's not much chance either would be claimed on waivers. I'm ok with trading Stepan, so long as we get a center who can win face offs. Nash would fit in very well on a small town team (Carolina, Winnipeg, Calgary). Nashville might be interested if Fisher retires, as rumored.





They can't send Staal or Girardi to the minors because they have no movement clauses.


Responded to itsmcilrarthtime's post and his idea of sending Staal down.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-12 4:56 AM (#676478 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
The Rangers have nothing imminent regarding a trade
Jun 11 | 9:04AM

"If the MacKinnon rumor is true say goodbye to Stephan"

The Rangers have been "active" in trade conversations with teams about a right-shot defenseman but "nothing is imminent." (NY Post)

Larry Brooks writes that players Tyson Barrie and/pr Jacob Trouba are of interest but "there is nothing at all doing on that front, at least at this moment." (NY Post)

Brooks also mentions the name of center Nathan MacKinnon as someone the Rangers, and many others, would like to acquire but that Joe Sakic is asking for "just about everyone" in return for a potential MacKinnon deal. (NY Post)

There are questions about how active the Rangers will be this summer.

Adam Rotter: Making a trade now would only lead to more complications regarding the expansion draft, unless the Rangers moved Staal or Girardi in the deal, but this is the time to lay groundwork for deals around the entry draft. The Rangers, and just about half the league, are looking for upgrades on defense so they won't be cheap. There are rumors Tampa is willing to dangle Jonathon Drouin for a defenseman and that is a hard price for the Rangers to match. If a trade doesn't materialize though there is still a right-shot defenseman they can sign on July 1 that will only cost them money.

6/11/17 | Larry Brooks reports that Jeff Gorton has continued speaking with Brendan Smith and that Smith has "maintained his willingness" to re-sign with the Rangers prior to UFA interview process opening on June 25 if ' the Blueshirts come in with a "market-price" offer.' (NY Post)

6/11/17 | According to Larry Brooks, as of Saturday morning, the Rangers had not requested that either Marc Staal or Dan Girardi waive their protection clauses to allow for exposure in the expansion draft. (NY Post)

The deadline to make this request of players is tomorrow at 5PM but Brooks says that because of the respect for Staal and Girardi it's likely that Gorton would have asked already. (NY Post)

Brooks also speculates that it's possible that the Rangers are okay with protecting Staal and Girardi, in addition to Ryan McDonagh, and may be willing to lose Nick Holden in the expansion draft. (NY Post)

According to Elliotte Friedman, there are rumblings that the Rangers contacted former Sabres and Stars coach Lindy Ruff about possibly joining Alain Vigneault's staff. (Sportsnet)

Friedman said that the idea of adding Ruff to the team is about making the group of coaches stronger and not about having Vigneault "look over his shoulder." (Sportsnet)

As Friedman notes, there are many connections between Ruff and the Rangers including being a teammate as a player with Scott Arniel and Rangers SVP Jim Schoenfeld. While Ruff was the coach in Buffalo he coached Rangers assistant GM Chris Drury and also had Arniel as an assistant coach. (Sportsnet)

Ruff also played parts of three seasons with the Rangers in the late 80s and early 90s.

Ruff was reportedly a candidate to be head coach of the Rangers in 2013 before the team hired Alain Vigneault.

Adam Rotter: Alain Vigneault's new contract starts next season and as far as I can tell, the Rangers are still happy with him and view him as the long-term coach. Lindy Ruff is an accomplished coach and unless the Sabres decide to bring him back, 2017-18 will be the first time since 97-98 that he won't enter the year as a head coach. I wonder if the Rangers reached out for a potential role as both a coach and part of the management team, like Jim Schoenfeld was when John Tortorella was coach. Ruff could be on the ice during practice, in all the meetings but watch the games from above and provide insight to Alain Vigneault, Jeff Gorton and the rest of the hockey operations staff.




Edited by RANGERNUT 2017-06-12 5:00 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-12 6:55 AM (#676480 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
The Rangers are not expected to qualify either Brandon Pirri or Adam Clendening, allowing both to become unrestricted free agents. (NY Post)

The Rangers will qualify Nicklas Jensen, 24, who played in 7 games with the Rangers this season and scored 32 goals and 23 assists in 70 AHL games. (NY Post)

The decision on whether to qualify Mackenzie Skapski is reportedly pending. (NY Post)

Adam Rotter: I thought there was a chance the Rangers could qualify Clendening, he's cheap and talented, but this opens up a spot on the Rangers 50 contract list for someone else. Pirri was never going to be qualified because he would likely accept that $1 million plus offer. Jensen is interesting. He's still young, had his best AHL season and could be someone the Rangers use in the bottom six depending on who is back and who isn't. He's a former first round pick and 30 goals in the AHL is still 30 goals. I'm not sure he could be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL but there is offensive ability in his game.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-12 8:13 AM (#676484 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Good stuff Rangernut... Gorton has work to do thats for sure...If Staal, Girardi and Stepan are on the ice opening night I will be upset. Trade Henrik too, I've had enough of him...The choker who's nothing but a joker.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-12 9:38 AM (#676485 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
6/11/17 | The Flames and Jets have reportedly called the Rangers about Antti Raanta but the team has not yet committed to trading him. (NY Post)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-12 10:16 AM (#676486 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Gorton...Give the Jets Raanta...and work a deal to get Trouba in return
Top of the page Bottom of the page
robstones
Posted 2017-06-12 4:23 PM (#676491 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 11595
10000
Location: New Jersey
Just read Shattenkirk is willing to come here at a discount

Consider him a Ranger
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-12 5:34 PM (#676492 - in reply to #676491)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Im sure he's coming here...I want Staal and Girardi to be gone or the 7th and 8th Defensemen. Its imperative to get a Trouba here... We could use a clutch Goalie too
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Beezer34
Posted 2017-06-12 6:00 PM (#676493 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 3133
1000
Location: Brisbane, Australia
The expansion draft is a big part of all teams futures.. as we have seen in so many drafts the LV team could grab a player the Rangers or other teams covet and then go and trade them post expansion. So there is potential for the Rangers to package players or get players from LV after they are selected. Plus Vegas has the right to sign UFA's prior to the draft so look at Oshi or Shattenkirk maybe going there. How the vegas team shapes up will show where other NHL teams are at. I have read that the Rangers lose one of three players to the expansion Rannta, Klein or Grabner.. so depending which one is selected it will depend on where the Rangers grab a guy to replace them. Klein was the early favorite but Rannta has been the new favorite .. so I think everything gets clearer after that and the draft.

I would also not rule out decent interest in either Girardi and Staal I look at Edmonton in NEED of D who would be into either of them...

It will make for an interesting summer. exciting.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-12 6:27 PM (#676494 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
MAF as per a report waived his NMC...NYR should go get him...He's better than Henrik
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-13 11:14 AM (#676497 - in reply to #676494)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 15404
10000
Mikey Red - 2017-06-12 8:27 PM

MAF as per a report waived his NMC...NYR should go get him...He's better than Henrik
He only waived it for the expansion draft...he did not waive it to be traded...and I certainly wouldn't want that flake in Rangers blue.

Edited by Mjolnir 2017-06-13 11:15 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 11:32 AM (#676499 - in reply to #676497)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Mjolnir - 2017-06-13 11:14 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-12 8:27 PM

MAF as per a report waived his NMC...NYR should go get him...He's better than Henrik
He only waived it for the expansion draft...he did not waive it to be traded...and I certainly wouldn't want that flake in Rangers blue.

Lol lol I hear ya....but his playoff resume is better than Henriks...the king with no rings playoff choker joker
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-13 11:54 AM (#676500 - in reply to #676499)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 15404
10000
Mikey Red - 2017-06-13 1:32 PM

Mjolnir - 2017-06-13 11:14 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-12 8:27 PM

MAF as per a report waived his NMC...NYR should go get him...He's better than Henrik
He only waived it for the expansion draft...he did not waive it to be traded...and I certainly wouldn't want that flake in Rangers blue.

Lol lol I hear ya....but his playoff resume is better than Henriks...the king with no rings playoff choker joker

He didn't get those rings on his play...
Top of the page Bottom of the page
LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-06-13 11:56 AM (#676501 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1092
1000
Location: NJ
After winning in '09, they were supposed to dominate, & Crybabies underachieved until these 2 cups. Many point to Fleury (i.e. Holtby now). While most hockey experts point to Hank as THE ONLY REASON they even have gotten as far as they did the last few years. Fleury has an all-star team around him. Oh & something about those 2 top 5 players in the game the last 10+ years & top 5 d-man when healthy. I'll take Crosby & Malkin for 10+ years on the Rangers, & see how they & Hank do. Do you think they beat LA (finals) with Crosby/Malkin? Do you think they beat the Devils (semis) with Crosby/Malkin? Come on, stop it.

Edited by LeetchyMrRanger 2017-06-13 12:04 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-13 3:06 PM (#676502 - in reply to #676494)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Regular

Posts: 499
250
Mikey Red - 2017-06-12 6:27 PM

MAF as per a report waived his NMC...NYR should go get him...He's better than Henrik



Congrats. You are the dumbest fukkkkkk on the planet. He or Murray couldn't lift Hank's jock strap. If Hank was on the Pens Crosby would have 5 to 7 cups easy. Hank is the only reason this sorry azzzzz team won any playoff games. They never f'n score for him.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 3:32 PM (#676504 - in reply to #676502)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
itsmcilrathtime - 2017-06-13 3:06 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-12 6:27 PM

MAF as per a report waived his NMC...NYR should go get him...He's better than Henrik



Congrats. You are the dumbest fukkkkkk on the planet. He or Murray couldn't lift Hank's jock strap. If Hank was on the Pens Crosby would have 5 to 7 cups easy. Hank is the only reason this sorry azzzzz team won any playoff games. They never f'n score for him.

Ha Ha Ha nice screen name...shows how much you know.... Is Maclrath still in the League? How could Murray or MAF not be able to lift Henriks jock when they have multiple rings? You are even more stupid by producing a hypothetical scenario.... If Henrik was on the Pens they might not have any cups ....because in the big spot...Henrik has proven over and over that he cant get it done...2009...3-1 lead on the Caps...guess who won the series? 2012 We had a 1-0 and 2-1 lead on the Devils...G5 at the Garden Henrik put us down 3-0 in the 1st 10 minutes...We came back and tied the game and guess what happened? The Devils 4th line scores the GW...Then in G6 Henrik puts us down 2-0...We battle back and send it to OT...1st Minute Devils score. 2014 SCF Im sure you remember how we had the lead in all 3 games in LA...and lost all 3 games in LA in OT...2015 vs the Lightning...G5 and G7 in our building and Henrik is the guy who gives up the goals...2016 Shouldnt of even dressed vs the Pens...2017 Henrik was flat out awful vs Ottawa and he cost us the series.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 3:34 PM (#676505 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Henrik Playoff record 61-65
Top of the page Bottom of the page
LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-06-13 3:47 PM (#676506 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1092
1000
Location: NJ
Useless argument, that series against Craps, I was talking to my friends & we were saying how are the Rangers up 3-1, the only reason was Hank. They had no business being up 3-1, Craps were overplaying them, a shooting galley on Hank, target practice. Even Ovie said he is not god, he can't stop everything every game. That came from Ovie, not you, how great Hank's play was with no support. That's the last on that from me, you like to argue, I do not.

Edited by LeetchyMrRanger 2017-06-13 3:49 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 3:51 PM (#676507 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Say what you want... the results dont lie...He is a great goalie until its clutch...then the choke comes...Fact
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 3:56 PM (#676508 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Henrik gets more of a free pass than F'n Jeter
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-13 4:33 PM (#676509 - in reply to #676508)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1932
1000
Mikey Red - 2017-06-13 3:56 PM

Henrik gets more of a free pass than F'n Jeter


Don't you dare talk about Jeter!!!

Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 4:37 PM (#676510 - in reply to #676509)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Rangerjunkie - 2017-06-13 4:33 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-13 3:56 PM

Henrik gets more of a free pass than F'n Jeter


Don't you dare talk about Jeter!!!


lol lol whats up RJ...Any luck getting rid of Stepan yet? I havent been able to work any magic
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-13 4:51 PM (#676511 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1932
1000
As far as I know he's still a liability to the Rangers......Hopefully they leave him unprotected and LV is just plain dumb enough
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 5:01 PM (#676512 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Absolutely
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 5:04 PM (#676513 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
...And break up the Yankees...who saw this coming?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-13 5:27 PM (#676514 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1932
1000
J U D G E
Top of the page Bottom of the page
LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-06-13 5:33 PM (#676515 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1092
1000
Location: NJ
There are very few & far between the likes of the Yanks. It is unreal how they rebuild so fast on the fly.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-13 5:40 PM (#676517 - in reply to #676514)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Rangerjunkie - 2017-06-13 5:27 PM

J U D G E

Insane what he's doing
Top of the page Bottom of the page
concust
Posted 2017-06-14 9:41 AM (#676527 - in reply to #676517)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 14721
10000
Location: USA
Mikey Red - 2017-06-13 6:40 PM

Rangerjunkie - 2017-06-13 5:27 PM

J U D G E

Insane what he's doing


Well he is The Great One

Top of the page Bottom of the page
robstones
Posted 2017-06-14 12:04 PM (#676545 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 11595
10000
Location: New Jersey
Jed Ortmeyer is a Director of Player Developement
Steve Eminger is a pro scout
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-15 8:38 AM (#676582 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
What is next after the buy out of Dan Girardi's contract?

9:55AM 6/15/17

The Rangers announced yesterday that they are buying out the final three-years of Dan Girardi's contract, freeing up an extra $2.8 million in cap space for this season.

By buying out Girardi, the Rangers also had another spot open up to protect a defenseman in the expansion draft.

Girardi reportedly intends to continue his NHL career and will pursue options as a free agent after his buyout from the Rangers becomes official. (Johnston)

Adam Rotter: The Rangers could conceivably sign Brendan Smith to a new contract before Saturday, when the protected lists are submitted, and protect him in the slot that Girardi was previously in. It was kind of expected that if Smith was going to re-sign with the Rangers it would occur after the expansion draft so that they could avoid Vegas potentially taking him and his new contract, but with that slot to protect another defensemen open, it makes sense lock Smith up if they can.

Otherwise they could protect Nick Holden with that new slot or potentially a new defensemen they acquire via trade. The Rangers have some options now after buying out Girardi but it would seem like the easiest would be to lock Smith up.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-15 8:40 AM (#676583 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
instagram post's yesterday

hank30nyr
For 11 years you have left everything you had in front of me. The way you competed and paid the price night in and night out inspired me more than you know. Will miss you on and off the ice. To me you are the definition of a warrior and I will ALWAYS appreciate what you have done for me and our team over the years. Thank you G!!!

rmcdonagh27
What a competitor who cares more about his teammates than himself. A true pro who taught me a lot about the game when I was just getting started. Thanks for everything G!! We will miss you

matszuccarello
Probobly over 1500 blocked shots the last 10 years. Played with alot of injuries and always gave 100% for the blueshirts. Everyone gonna miss u 5'er. Good luck to u?? #machine




Edited by RANGERNUT 2017-06-15 8:48 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-15 8:49 AM (#676584 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Derek Stepan's name is being mentioned in a lot of trade chatter

Jun 14 | 2:08PM

6/14/17 | 1:53PM: Bob McKenzie tweets that Derek Stepan's name is "fairly prominent" in trade chatter around the NHL.

McKenzie notes though that just because a player is being talked about doesn't mean he will get traded.

Stepan has four-years left on his contract at $6.5 million but has a full No-Trade clause kick in on July 1.

He had 17 goals and 38 assists in 81 games this season but only 2 goals and 4 assists in the playoffs.

It was reported last summer that the Rangers were doing a lot of "listening" in regards to a potential trade of Stepan.

Adam Rotter: There should be a lot of chatter around Stepan, but chatter also goes both ways. There is no indication that the Rangers are shopping Stepan or have any interest in moving him, but the Rangers can't stop teams from calling and asking about him. I think the Rangers would be open to moving Stepan for the right price but they aren't going to just give him away. Stepan is a valuable asset for the Rangers and someone who would be desirable for another team. He's a solid two-way player, has playoff experience, relatively consistent in his production and has cost certainty in his contract.

I would guess that with how Kevin Hayes played, and Mika Zibanejad's potential, the Rangers might be a bit more open to trading Stepan than they were last summer but it's still going to cost a lot. I don't think the Rangers move Stepan unless it nets them a younger player, probably a defenseman, who could join the Rangers core.


Edited by RANGERNUT 2017-06-15 8:50 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-15 9:49 AM (#676586 - in reply to #676545)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
robstones - 2017-06-14 12:04 PM

Jed Ortmeyer is a Director of Player Developement
Steve Eminger is a pro scout


You forgot Ben Prentiss ................

Ben Prentiss, the offseason trainer for Marty St. Louis, Pavel Buchnevich, Brad Richards, Chris Kreider, Derick Brassard and others, is joining as a strength and conditioning consultant.
•From the Rangers release, "In his role, Prentiss will use his expertise to help develop and execute training programs for Rangers players and prospects, both on the ice and off the ice. Prentiss is the founder of Prentiss Hockey Performance (PHP), and he has worked with professional and Olympic hockey players for two decades."

Kevin Shattenkirk is also someone who has worked with Prentiss.

Chris Drury was formerly the Rangers Director of Player Development before being promoted to Assistant GM.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-15 10:44 AM (#676588 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Scott Arniel is reportedly still in the mix for the Sabres job

12:05PM 6/15/17

6/15/17 | Scott Arniel remains in the mix to be the head coach of the Sabres, according to the Buffalo News.

Phil Housley is expected to get the job with Buffalo, but Arniel who played and was an assistant coach in Buffalo, but John Vogl writes that Arniel's candidacy "should be taken very seriously." (Buffalo News)

6/10/17 | Elliotte Friedman reports that Rangers associate coach Scott Arniel interviewed for the head coach openings in Florida and Buffalo. (Sportsnet)

Florida is hiring San Jose assistant Bob Boughner while Buffalo is reportedly waiting to hire Dan Bylsma's replacement until after the Stanley Cup Final. (Sportsnet)

Arniel spoke last summer about his hope to get another head coaching job in the NHL.

He coached 1 1/2 seasons in Columbus, going 45-60-18 from 2010 to 2012.

Arniel has been an associate coach with the Rangers since Alain Vigneault was hired.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-15 12:40 PM (#676589 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Scott Arniel is not getting the Sabres head coaching job

1:40PM 6/15/17


6/15/17 | 1:38PM: The Sabres have hired Phil Housley, according to Darren Dreger.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-15 1:00 PM (#676590 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1932
1000
And he shouldn't!! He can't even run a good PP
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rranger
Posted 2017-06-15 8:51 PM (#676613 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 2438
1000
But he runs a great horseshoe.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-26 12:48 PM (#677108 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Sunday 6/25/17 was the deadline to extend qualifying offers to restricted free agents, and the Rangers did not give offers to forward Brandon Pirri, defenseman Adam Clendening or goalie Mackenzie Skapski. They are all now free to sign elsewhere.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-26 12:48 PM (#677109 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Should the Rangers check in on Joe Thornton?

11:40AM 6/26/17

Now here's a laugher for ya....... Please NO... Please.... Im beggin.... NO.... Not again ..

Larry Brooks writes that it isn't known if Joe Thornton would have interest in joining the Rangers on a one-year deal, but that Jeff Gorton may check in on him. (NY Post)

Thornton reportedly wants another three-year deal in his next contract and Bob McKenzie said during the draft on Friday that he expects Thornton to stay in San Jose.

Thornton is currently recovering from MCL and ACL surgery and turns 38 this coming weekend.

He has reportedly been receiving a lot of interest from teams throughout the league since the window for teams to talk to pending UFAs opened yesterday.

There have been rumors connecting Thornton and the Rangers together over the past number of years.

Adam Rotter: The last time the Rangers brought in a close to 40 year old UFA from San Jose, Dan Boyle, things didn't work out as well as planned. Dan Boyle was only on a two-year deal and that was too much for the Rangers, so I don't think they will go anywhere near Joe Thornton unless it's for a one-year deal only. Thornton can still produce, though his numbers did drop last season, but he's a proven performer, has had solid playoff performances and can win faceoffs. He would seem like a nice fit but only on a one-year deal. It's likely that even despite his age and coming off of major surgeries that he will get at least 2 years from someone, maybe 3, but that team shouldn't be the Rangers.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
robstones
Posted 2017-06-26 1:02 PM (#677112 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 11595
10000
Location: New Jersey
I could see 2 years. He's not on his prime. He's not going to score 114 points ever again....

But he still has game. He scored 4 goals in the 7 game series in the playoffs... He put up 50 points, most of them assists

Kreider Thornton Nash
Buchnevich Zibanejad Zuccarello
Vesey Hayes Miller
Grabner Andersson Fast

McDonagh Shattenkirk
Skjei Smith
Staal DeAngelo

Lundqvist
Enroth

Is a lineup I could get in to.... if those contracts work is always a question and concern, of course.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
concust
Posted 2017-06-26 1:13 PM (#677114 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 14721
10000
Location: USA
I'm still holding my tongue until July 1 (ok the first week) but getting a little nervous about this offseason. We've created a huge hole at C and there's really no UFA that's qualified to fill it, so this has to come from within the organization (nobody ready, Nieves for 4C maybe) or via trade.

With Girardi buyout and Klein retirement, and Clendening allowed to walk - that's all our righties. So also, huge holes on defense. On defense at least, Shattenkirk can, and probably will, fill that hole. It may be a risk but do you sign him to a big contract, under the assumption that there will be amnesty buyouts the next lockout? That sounds like a dumb way to plan it but when you have the Rangers' deep pockets in a hard cap league, that is one way to maximize the dollars you have. Frontload a Shattenkirk offer, so he gets his money, sign him to 7 years or whatever, and assume that after 4 years (CBA expiration) you can just buy him out. So you're paying more dollars for a lower cap hit for what is essentially a 4 year contract.

DeAngelo I'm sure will get a long look at the third pair/"PP Specialist". If you can re-sign Smith and have him play the second pair right side, you should be ok. Sign a veteran to sit in the press box while Pionk develops in Hartford.

Back to center though... who f'n knows. I will be presently surprised if July 1 comes around and Gorton signs someone decent or wheels and deals a trade to get better/younger/cheaper but I don't think that happens. I think we're f'ed at center for this year at least.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
robstones
Posted 2017-06-26 1:44 PM (#677115 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 11595
10000
Location: New Jersey
The only other center after Thornton that seems like any kind of worth in free agency is Sam Gagner
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-26 8:50 PM (#677121 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Does Shane Doan have anything left? Im not opposed to Hanzal on the reasonable... then Doan would come here for free on a 1 yr they are BFF's
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-27 4:50 AM (#677124 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
It sounds more and more like .....Maybe they WON'T

How far will the Rangers go for Kevin Shattenkirk?
Jun 26 | 5:27PM

6/26/17 | 5:25PM: Bob McKenzie was on TSN 1260 in Edmonton and Monday and was asked about Kevin Shattenkirk and the Rangers.

McKenzie said, "I don't know that the Rangers are as eager for Shattenkirk that everyone says they are. They might get in those sweepstakes but quite frankly, a big part of the reason they made the Stepan deal was that they were trying to shed a contract.

6/19/17 |Larry Brooks wrote on Monday that there is "no reason to expect" that the Rangers will sign Kevin Shattenkirk to the 6-7 year deal between $6.25 and $6.75 million he could likely command. (NY Post)

Brooks mentions the idea of a short-term deal, with a higher cap hit, but adds wonders why Shattenkirk would leave money on the table to play for the Rangers. (NY Post)

In early May, Brooks wrote that "all indications over the last two years" are that the Rangers don't view Kevin Shattenkirk as a top-pairing right defenseman, "certainly" not at a potential rate of $6.5 million for 6-7 years. (NY Post)

In early March, after the trade deadline, Brooks wrote that he would be "shocked" if the Rangers were to go longer than 5-years and $6 million per year for Shattenkirk. (NY Post)

Adam Rotter: It seems like term, not the cap hit, will be the bigger issue for the Rangers but ultimately this all comes down to where Kevin Shattenkirk wants to play. I believe that if Kevin Shattenkirk wants to be a Ranger than the two sides will find a way to get things done. If Shattenkirk wants max money and a max deal (probably something like 7-years, $7 million) than he will be playing somewhere else, probably for a team near the bottom of the standings. Shattenkirk isn't Erik Karlsson but he would certainly help the Rangers ability to move the puck, create offense and give them a player who, at least on paper, seems to fit very well into Alain Vigneault's system. The bigger question, more than term or cap hit, will probably be the kind of protection clause (no-move or no-trade) that he asks for. Of the 12 defensemen who have cap hits between $5.5 million and $6.5 million, 10 have a clause of some sort.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-27 5:49 AM (#677125 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
The ‘exceptional’ talent who could force way onto Rangers radar
By Larry Brooks June 26, 2017 | 11:20pm

His name is Sean Day, and if the tag “exceptional” might prove hyperbolic at this moment, remember that this 19-year-old potential stud defenseman was only the fourth player in OHL history to be granted “exceptional player status” that allowed him to join the league as a 15-year-old in 2013.

The first three: John Tavares, Aaron Ekblad and Connor McDavid.

Day is a 6-foot-2, 231-pound lefty who played the right side last season. He said that’s become his preferred position. If the Rangers would give their kingdom for a horse, it would specifically be for a horse on the right side of the blue line. Nick Holden, whose game slipped dramatically the second half of the season, seems to have a spot, but beyond that, it’s wide open with Brendan Smith still an impending free agent.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/26/the-exceptional-talent-brewing-who-may...






Top of the page Bottom of the page
itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-27 6:21 AM (#677126 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Regular

Posts: 499
250
Brooks is a moron. Day has no chance of beating Graves out for a spot. Graves would have lit it up this year if he played on a real team with a real coach. Day still has a lot of work to do. He has no clue how to play against men yet.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-27 6:57 AM (#677127 - in reply to #677126)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
itsmcilrathtime - 2017-06-27 6:21 AM

Brooks is a moron. Day has no chance of beating Graves out for a spot. Graves would have lit it up this year if he played on a real team with a real coach. Day still has a lot of work to do. He has no clue how to play against men yet.


Not for nothing and I wont disagree that Brooks may be a moron as you say but, I believe if you read the article it clearly states: "just might" and "in the future"

Day; "I think my offensive game jumped another level and I matured as a player. But I just have to keep getting better and better.”
Brooks; "If he does and if he can, the Rangers just might have an exceptional talent on their blue line one day not too far in the future".

a player doesn't get listed as "exceptional player status" very often, just sayin...
Top of the page Bottom of the page
concust
Posted 2017-06-27 6:58 AM (#677128 - in reply to #677121)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 14721
10000
Location: USA
Mikey Red - 2017-06-26 9:50 PM

Does Shane Doan have anything left? Im not opposed to Hanzal on the reasonable... then Doan would come here for free on a 1 yr they are BFF's


Absolutely not. Doan has been done for years, Hanzal is another bottom tier center. We need to replace a top 6 forward.

The best UFA option is Gagner, who isn't exactly a top 6 center but he can reasonably platoon with Hayes and Zibanejad to be 1/2/3. Hanzal doesn't have the scoring ability, really nobody else this UFA class does either.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
concust
Posted 2017-06-27 7:10 AM (#677129 - in reply to #677127)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 14721
10000
Location: USA
RANGERNUT - 2017-06-27 7:57 AM

itsmcilrathtime - 2017-06-27 6:21 AM

Brooks is a moron. Day has no chance of beating Graves out for a spot. Graves would have lit it up this year if he played on a real team with a real coach. Day still has a lot of work to do. He has no clue how to play against men yet.


Not for nothing and I wont disagree that Brooks may be a moron as you say but, I believe if you read the article it clearly states: "just might" and "in the future"

Day; "I think my offensive game jumped another level and I matured as a player. But I just have to keep getting better and better.”
Brooks; "If he does and if he can, the Rangers just might have an exceptional talent on their blue line one day not too far in the future".

a player doesn't get listed as "exceptional player status" very often, just sayin...


Graves will probably make the NHL first, but Day has the potential to be a game-changer.

There's also the question of style, Graves is a physical, shut down type, more like a Sauer or a Beukeboom. Day has size also but his strengths are rushing the puck and using his vision. Graves is much more mature defensively than Day at this point, Day's hope is that his dynamic offensive ability can overshadow defensive deficiencies.

There's an outside shot, that if Day plays the style this team needs more, that he could leapfrog Graves in the depth chart. I don't think Day is nearly ready yet but for a guy with his abilities I'm perfectly willing to shave off a year or two of the typical timeline it takes for a defenseman to be ready for NHL action.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-27 8:23 AM (#677134 - in reply to #677128)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
concust - 2017-06-27 6:58 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-26 9:50 PM

Does Shane Doan have anything left? Im not opposed to Hanzal on the reasonable... then Doan would come here for free on a 1 yr they are BFF's


Absolutely not. Doan has been done for years, Hanzal is another bottom tier center. We need to replace a top 6 forward.

The best UFA option is Gagner, who isn't exactly a top 6 center but he can reasonably platoon with Hayes and Zibanejad to be 1/2/3. Hanzal doesn't have the scoring ability, really nobody else this UFA class does either.


Yeah its not the greatest class for sure...I only wondered Doan maybe play for 1 year...and then if Lias is the real deal, maybe he comes up the year after. If a top 6 forward is the case...might have to look at Duchense ...I'd still like to have Trouba
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-27 9:46 AM (#677137 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Potential options for the Rangers to replace Raanta

8:56AM 6/27/17

Jeff Gorton said last week that while he was reluctant to move Antti Raanta, the Coyotes insisted on the goalie as part of the package that landed the Rangers Anthony DeAngelo and Lias Andersson.

Gorton said that Raanta was a tough player to give up and that since joining the Rangers Raanta had been "very good, great in our room and great on the ice."

He added that Raanta also wanted to be a number one goalie and that he will have a "great opportunity" to do that in Arizona.

On looking for his replacement, Gorton said that it looks to be a strong market for goalies and and that, with the help of Benoit Allaire, the Rangers have been able to find success with the goalies they bring in.

Larry Brooks wrote that the Rangers have reached out to Buffalo's Anders Nilsson about the role. (NY Post)

Brooks adds that other possible candidates could include Antti Niemi, Keith Kinkaid, Mike Condon or Ondrej Pavelec. (NY Post)

Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-27 9:55 AM (#677138 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Way too much love for Raantaa...He was the backup goalie...we never won anything with him...we can do it without him too
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-27 9:57 AM (#677140 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Skapski kid must of fell off the map for them not to qualify him. I thought Benoit could work with him
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rranger
Posted 2017-06-27 10:32 AM (#677141 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 2438
1000
The thing with goaltenders especially backups, is they literally are a dime a dozen, and available all the time. The Rangers are fortunate to have Allaire to pick and work with the goalies. Many thought the sky had fallen when Talbot got traded, for what seemed a lessor return. Raanta stepped in and did the job and leaves with number 1 potential just like Talbot. I have little doubt Allaire will find a suitable replacement. Will the new backups career mirror Talbot and Raanta's solid starter and potential starter progression? If it does the Rangers better give Allaire a blank contract to fill in the numbers.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
concust
Posted 2017-06-27 10:40 AM (#677142 - in reply to #677134)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 14721
10000
Location: USA
Mikey Red - 2017-06-27 9:23 AM

concust - 2017-06-27 6:58 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-26 9:50 PM

Does Shane Doan have anything left? Im not opposed to Hanzal on the reasonable... then Doan would come here for free on a 1 yr they are BFF's


Absolutely not. Doan has been done for years, Hanzal is another bottom tier center. We need to replace a top 6 forward.

The best UFA option is Gagner, who isn't exactly a top 6 center but he can reasonably platoon with Hayes and Zibanejad to be 1/2/3. Hanzal doesn't have the scoring ability, really nobody else this UFA class does either.


Yeah its not the greatest class for sure...I only wondered Doan maybe play for 1 year...and then if Lias is the real deal, maybe he comes up the year after. If a top 6 forward is the case...might have to look at Duchense ...I'd still like to have Trouba


The problem i have with older guys like doan, thornton, etc is as much the fact that you're forcing one of your own prospects down the chart for another year. Doan might score 30 points, and your prospect might only score 20 and have some growing pains, but you're also investing a year worth of pro experience in him.

Problem is that the rangers don't have anyone at C really worthy of making the jump. So a guy like thornton on a one year deal isn't the worst idea. Barring a trade, we do need something more down the middle.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-27 10:46 AM (#677143 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Yep...There is nothing in Hartford. You also maybe dont want to burn a year off the rookie contract either
Top of the page Bottom of the page
sureshore
Posted 2017-06-27 3:42 PM (#677149 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


All-Star

Posts: 1128
1000
I just knew we'd lose Lindberg to LVK and not Raanta. LVK had no use for Raanta once Fleury was theirs. Not sure why Rangers felt comfortable with that (losing Lindberg), especially since it seemed clear there was the deal in the works with AZ for seemed like a few weeks

And once one thing happened maybe the brakes should have been used a little on the other and think about your center position a bit. Now - a gaping hole and little available there in free agency. Would love Duchene but Rangers don't have anything to give that Colorado wants (and Colorado has lots of wants)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-28 4:15 AM (#677175 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
6/27/17 | Elliotte Friedman writes that the Rangers and Smith appear "headed towards a deal." (Sportsnet)

6/26/17 | Brendan Smith's agent says that he continues to have "good dialogue" with Jeff Gorton and said that "hopefully" the two are working toward a resolution that would keep Smith with the Rangers. (NY Post)

Smith's agent says that both sides are "trying to make it happen." (NY Post)


Edited by RANGERNUT 2017-06-28 4:17 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
concust
Posted 2017-06-28 3:03 PM (#677204 - in reply to #677149)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 14721
10000
Location: USA
sureshore - 2017-06-27 4:42 PM

I just knew we'd lose Lindberg to LVK and not Raanta. LVK had no use for Raanta once Fleury was theirs. Not sure why Rangers felt comfortable with that (losing Lindberg), especially since it seemed clear there was the deal in the works with AZ for seemed like a few weeks

And once one thing happened maybe the brakes should have been used a little on the other and think about your center position a bit. Now - a gaping hole and little available there in free agency. Would love Duchene but Rangers don't have anything to give that Colorado wants (and Colorado has lots of wants)


Just trade Deangelo for Tyson Barrie, and then send Barrie back for Duchene. Sakic is so desperate at this point it just might work
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-30 4:52 AM (#677254 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



All-Star

Posts: 2957
1000
Location: USA
Where things stand with Kevin Shattenkirk and the Rangers heading into Saturday

Jun 29 | 6:18PM

6/29/17 | Larry Brooks tweeted earlier today that the Rangers have checked in with pending UFA defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk and will speak with him on Saturday.

Brooks adds though that for Shattenkirk to sign with the Rangers he would need to leave millions of dollars on the table.

He went on to tweet that the Devils are expected to be among the most serious and aggressive bidders for Shattenkirk.

Eliotte Friedman wrote today that the Rangers are "determined to be modest" and that it would take them out of the running for Shattenkirk "unless something really changes." (Sportsnet)

Friedman adds that the Sabres are expected to be a "serious suitor" for Shattenkirk. (Sportsnet)

Today on 630 CHED in Edmonton, Friedman said "I think Buffalo has made a big play for him. I still think that Kevin Shattenkirk would love to be a Ranger, I don't know if it's going to fit. The Rangers have made it clear that they aren't going to be as crazy on the open market as they have in the past so I don't know if there is a fit there but from what I understand Buffalo has made a really big pitch for him.

Today on Sportsnet 960 in Calgary, Friedman said "we've all been writing for a long time that he wants to play for the Rangers but I think the Rangers are at a point in their existence where they are determined to be prudent. If he is looking for 7-years at big money, I don't think he will get it in New York. If he still wants to go there it's going to take a lot of wrangling but he's probably going to have to leave some money on the table. Buffalo is there, I didn't put NJ in because I can't prove it, it's not something I have heard as much but it makes a lot of sense. I think those are the teams. I think his market is interesting, a little different but if he really wants to go to New York it's going to take some work between him and the team."

Adam Rotter: Until he has signed somewhere else, I still believe there is a pretty good chance that if Kevin Shattenkirk wants to play for the Rangers than he will play for the Rangers. The Rangers won't give him the most money, they almost certainly won't go seven-years unless it significantly lowers the cap hit, but there are teams who can give him seven years and a high cap hit. It depends what Shattenkirk wants. If he wants to play for the Rangers than he will probably sign a four-year deal that is likely just north of $6 million. If he wants to maximize his earning potential, which he has every right to do, he will end up somewhere else. Another factor that comes with going for the most money is that he will likely get it from a team that won't be in the playoffs. Shattenkirk has been on a playoff team the past 6 years. It's a big decision for Shattenkirk and there are ways it can work between him and the Rangers, it's just that his desire to play for them has to be greater than going for the most money.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-06-30 10:17 AM (#677260 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: RE: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Regular

Posts: 499
250
Andersson thinks he can make this team. While the Rangers almost never put 18 year olds in the league, he might pull it off. Duclair wasn't quite ready. I hope the Rangers do little in the offseason. They have no need to add a defenseman. A backup goalie yes. They seem to build them up with our elite goaltender coach then deal them for nice returns. A third line center on no more than a 2 year deal if Andersson isn't in the mix. Rangers have a habit of giving crap role playing UFA's 3 year deals.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
robstones
Posted 2017-06-30 7:49 PM (#677272 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 11595
10000
Location: New Jersey
So, you're fine rocking a defense consisting of

McDonagh Holden
Skjei Smith
Staal DeAngelo


?.


I'm not.... Pionk....
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-30 7:55 PM (#677273 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
Put Holden with Deangelo...make things interesting....Go get Trouba
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-30 7:58 PM (#677274 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


MVP

Posts: 6483
5000
I dont know even if Lias is lights out in training camp should he stay...18 is crazy young...on the other hand Boo, Graves, Tambellini, Bryz....all starting to get close to their mid 20's and still not here.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
DaTeL
Posted 2017-07-01 12:13 AM (#677276 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



Legend

Posts: 18508
10000
Location: Czech Republic
Also, don't forget there will lots of player still without contract when the camp starts.
Some of the tryouts might work out.

Long way to the season opening lineup methinks.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-07-01 3:38 AM (#677277 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Regular

Posts: 499
250
The Rangers need to go young on defense. Face it. Hank's time is over. They are now setting things up for the next goalie. Pencil Graves in. I had him rated ahead of Skjei at one point. The Rangers defense was slow, lazy and overpaid the past 2 years. It's time to go in a different direction.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Steady Eddie
Posted 2017-07-02 10:05 AM (#677471 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?



MVP

Posts: 7042
5000
Wondering what other (if any) moves we might make. There is about $8.3 million left on the cap. Guessing Zib and Fast account for around $5 million, which leaves $3 million. Perhaps Grigorenko could be had for around $1.5 million. Still have 9 contract slots left, though I would imagine a few will go to draft picks or AHL depth.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Shattenkirk NYR
Posted 2017-07-02 10:08 AM (#677472 - in reply to #676454)
Subject: Re: How active will the Rangers be this offseason?


Rookie

Posts: 207
50
My calculations show us with about 11.2 mill of cap space left (do not count Klein since he will retire this week). I am guessing around 7 mill for Zib and Fast. So we'll have about 4.2 left. I also fully expect us to deal Holden if we need to, so that would leave us with around 6 mill (maybe a touch under) to add a forward.

Issue is there is not much left available. But we can always work some sort of trade. And with Gorton pretty much coming out and saying we'll add a forward yesterday, I expect us to add someone in the coming days (be it a signing or a trade).


Top of the page Bottom of the page