New Coach: BU Terriers' David Quinn?
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Posted 2018-05-19 4:27 PM (#704916)
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Got this from a Cafe buddy.

Rangers have a new Head Coach:

Boston University bench boss David Quinn has apparently informed the athletic director at Boston University that he is taking the New York Rangers head-coaching job.
Quinn will reportedly sign a five-year deal worth $12 million. He'll be tasked with turning around a Rangers team that finished 24th in the NHL this season. However, the Rangers are expected to adopt a similar approach as the one the Philadelphia Flyers took with Dave Hakstol, giving Quinn time to implement his system and change the culture of the Rangers dressing room. A press conference could take place shortly after GM Jeff Gorton returns from the IIHF World Championships on Monday.
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Posted 2018-05-19 4:42 PM (#704919 - in reply to #704916)
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Yep I read that too...I hope its not official yet...I want:
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2. Bashar Al Asaad
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Posted 2018-05-19 5:33 PM (#704927 - in reply to #704916)
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Hopefully the new Coach doesnt have player input for a while...AV had input early and got rid of Stralman and chose Fast over Hagelin
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Posted 2018-05-19 6:09 PM (#704933 - in reply to #704927)
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-19 4:33 PM

Hopefully the new Coach doesnt have player input for a while...AV had input early and got rid of Stralman and chose Fast over Hagelin




And wanted Dan Boyle.
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Posted 2018-05-19 6:16 PM (#704934 - in reply to #704933)
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-19 4:33 PM

Hopefully the new Coach doesnt have player input for a while...AV had input early and got rid of Stralman and chose Fast over Hagelin




And wanted Dan Boyle.

Yep
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Posted 2018-05-19 7:16 PM (#704939 - in reply to #704916)
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It is a good idea to hire a coach before the Draft & FA. A coach should have the option to build a team & players to his style. So, they do have to have a coach by that time. And, they did say (I hate this saying) they are thinking/looking outside the box, they were not looking @ recycled material, the ol' boys club.

I think next year will be a challenging year, the East is tough, it will be a tough year, a lot of new faces also. I would not be expecting too much.

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Posted 2018-05-19 7:20 PM (#704940 - in reply to #704916)
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https://bluelinestation.com/2018/05/02/new-york-rangers-head-coach-c...



https://foreverblueshirts.com/david-quinn-rangers-head-coach/


Two good reads on DQ, his background, and coaching style
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Posted 2018-05-19 7:45 PM (#704950 - in reply to #704916)
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This is the line that catches my attention in those articles.

"He also requires his team to play a smart and physical style game"
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Posted 2018-05-19 7:56 PM (#704958 - in reply to #704950)
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94 - 2018-05-19 9:45 PM

This is the line that catches my attention in those articles.

"He also requires his team to play a smart and physical style game"


"Quinn has a knack for assembling potent line combinations and then having faith in his players to keep them together."
No more blender tactics

"Quinn likes to employ and unleash offensive defensemen, even at the expense of some defense."
Shattenkirk just wet his undies

"Alain Vigneault’s coaching style would be considered relaxed...... Quinn, on the other hand, seems like the complete opposite of that style, as he is vocal and commands the room....."
A leader behind the bench? What an idea!


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Posted 2018-05-19 7:58 PM (#704959 - in reply to #704916)
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What a concept!
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Posted 2018-05-19 7:59 PM (#704960 - in reply to #704916)
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They don't mention if he has a double mint habit or not, though
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Posted 2018-05-19 8:00 PM (#704961 - in reply to #704916)
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He will be telling JG to get BT ....Perhaps we can keep the 9 and and take the 2 low 1's and a player etc...and get in the top 10 again
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Posted 2018-05-19 8:01 PM (#704962 - in reply to #704960)
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robstones - 2018-05-19 9:59 PM

They don't mention if he has a double mint habit or not, though

Lol Lets hope not
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Posted 2018-05-19 8:59 PM (#704967 - in reply to #704961)
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He will be telling JG to get BT ....Perhaps we can keep the 9 and and take the 2 low 1's and a player etc...and get in the top 10 again


What's better than drafting Noah Dobson?

Drafting Tkachuk AND Dobson!!
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Posted 2018-05-19 9:03 PM (#704968 - in reply to #704916)
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I would rather have Fred Flinstone than numb nuts, so the replacement coaching bar is not exactly requiring much to leap. But I like lots of what I’ve read about him. He checks a lot of boxes from what I see.
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Posted 2018-05-21 7:47 AM (#705039 - in reply to #704916)
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Well they said from the beginning that they wanted a coach who would have player development at the forefront of their skillset, and if/when this is confirmed this is the exact right type of candidate. I've said from the beginning that the coach needs to fit the team (and vice versa) to have any success. This is a large part of why AV's last year was so disastrous - ever since the Stepan trade it was clear that the direction of the club had changed, but AV is not a coach that changes(anything). He no longer shared the direction and vision of Gorton and the rest of the club and tried to fit a square peg into a round hole. AV is a good coach when you give him a talented, veteran team that can pretty much run itself. We all know he's not good at adapting to game situations, or using youngsters effectively, or keeping track of his defensemen.

So I like this Quinn hire, with the understanding that if and when this team matures into more of a contender, Quinn at that point may or may not be the guy anymore. But for the stage that the team is in now, I like this hire a lot.


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Posted 2018-05-21 7:59 AM (#705041 - in reply to #704916)
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Last Rangers coach to go from NCAA to NHL?

Herb Brooks..... only real difference is he took a job in Switzerland for a season.... Davos.....

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Posted 2018-05-21 8:06 AM (#705042 - in reply to #705041)
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Go Quinn Go! I just hope I never see Buch or Names on the 4th line and Fast on the top line again
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Posted 2018-05-21 4:08 PM (#705068 - in reply to #705042)
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-21 7:06 AM

Go Quinn Go! I just hope I never see Buch or Names on the 4th line and Fast on the top line again





Fast is money in the bank as soon as chewy signs and he will somewhere, Fast to that team for a first round pick.
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Posted 2018-05-21 5:01 PM (#705069 - in reply to #704950)
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94 - 2018-05-19 9:45 PM

This is the line that catches my attention in those articles.

"He also requires his team to play a smart and physical style game"
Same here ... confirms my suspicious that JG wants to model the team after the Bruins.
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Posted 2018-05-21 5:05 PM (#705070 - in reply to #705068)
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-21 7:06 AM

Go Quinn Go! I just hope I never see Buch or Names on the 4th line and Fast on the top line again





Fast is money in the bank as soon as chewy signs and he will somewhere, Fast to that team for a first round pick.

Lol lets hope!
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Posted 2018-05-22 10:00 AM (#705206 - in reply to #704916)
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Both Brooks and Mackenzie today tweeting that it's all done bar the paper work
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Posted 2018-05-22 10:44 AM (#705207 - in reply to #704916)
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Rangers GM says they're going to be a tougher and more pyhiscal team.... Wonder if they see that in Quinns style?




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Posted 2018-05-22 10:57 AM (#705211 - in reply to #704916)
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Yeah! Bowling ball warrior team LGR!...To me that seems he will try to get Trouba....maybe draft Dobson or Tkachuk....Maybe sign a Luke Schenn?...Maybe we talk to Ottawa, Arizona and the Oil
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Posted 2018-05-22 11:19 AM (#705212 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-05-22 11:57 AM (#705213 - in reply to #705069)
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Mjolnir - 2018-05-21 6:01 PM

94 - 2018-05-19 9:45 PM

This is the line that catches my attention in those articles.

"He also requires his team to play a smart and physical style game"
Same here ... confirms my suspicious that JG wants to model the team after the Bruins.


This is a talking point. It's not worth breath to even say. Ever hear anyone say they want their team to play a dumb and soft style game?
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Posted 2018-05-22 12:31 PM (#705214 - in reply to #705213)
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Mjolnir - 2018-05-21 6:01 PM

94 - 2018-05-19 9:45 PM

This is the line that catches my attention in those articles.

"He also requires his team to play a smart and physical style game"
Same here ... confirms my suspicious that JG wants to model the team after the Bruins.


This is a talking point. It's not worth breath to even say. Ever hear anyone say they want their team to play a dumb and soft style game?




Av says play whistle to whistle... isn't that the same as saying dumb and soft?

I would also say I hope not like the Bruins... They play (with the exceptions of 1 new year) Physically but historically stupid... like the Flyers.

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Posted 2018-05-22 12:48 PM (#705215 - in reply to #704916)
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According to the video on the link... Jim Montgomery from the University of Denver, was offered the job by the Rangers and turned it down even though it was a lot more money.... to coach Dallas which I find interesting. Quinn was not the first choice. Maybe Montgomery didn't want to step into the NY media market, doesn't like the management above or thinks Dallas has better chances and players... maybe personal reasons... why turn down more money?


Also add's a mini rivalry with Dallas, every time we play them now, we'll see what team is better coached.

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Posted 2018-05-22 1:09 PM (#705217 - in reply to #704916)
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'Maybe Montgomery didn't want to step into the NY media market' - could be, wouldn't be the 1st.
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Posted 2018-05-22 1:23 PM (#705218 - in reply to #704916)
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The explanation out there is that Montgomery wanted to stay in the mid west
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Posted 2018-05-22 2:06 PM (#705219 - in reply to #705218)
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I hope he doesn't chew gum... Ranger fans don't seem to like that.



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Posted 2018-05-22 2:18 PM (#705221 - in reply to #704916)
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Haha 2 Rules lol...1. No gum and 2. Fast only 4th line
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Posted 2018-05-22 2:48 PM (#705222 - in reply to #705217)
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Montgomery wanted to stay in the Midwest, that's why he did not take the Rangers job
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Posted 2018-05-22 3:02 PM (#705224 - in reply to #705222)
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rjpny75 - 2018-05-22 3:48 PM

Montgomery wanted to stay in the Midwest, that's why he did not take the Rangers job


Oddly, Dallas isn't the midwest, it's more like if Beverly Hills and El Paso had a bastard son.
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Posted 2018-05-22 3:11 PM (#705225 - in reply to #705213)
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94 - 2018-05-19 9:45 PM

This is the line that catches my attention in those articles.

"He also requires his team to play a smart and physical style game"
Same here ... confirms my suspicious that JG wants to model the team after the Bruins.


This is a talking point. It's not worth breath to even say. Ever hear anyone say they want their team to play a dumb and soft style game?
No...but, as Andy referred to, certain teams have been historically known for their physical play -- notably the Bruins and Flyers. Then you have the teams whose game is speed and skill but have the ability to play physical when necessary. I don't think JG wants the Bruins type of team rather than the team that "can" play physical. To be honest, if this year's team throws hits half the time, that'll be a 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000% improvement over the AV times.
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Posted 2018-05-22 3:15 PM (#705226 - in reply to #705215)
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Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 11:48 AM

According to the video on the link... Jim Montgomery from the University of Denver, was offered the job by the Rangers and turned it down even though it was a lot more money.... to coach Dallas which I find interesting. Quinn was not the first choice. Maybe Montgomery didn't want to step into the NY media market, doesn't like the management above or thinks Dallas has better chances and players... maybe personal reasons... why turn down more money?


Also add's a mini rivalry with Dallas, every time we play them now, we'll see what team is better coached.



I remember having to work down in DC and deciding I'd rather quit and make less than work down there...just had an "opportunity" to go work in Chicago full time, and I came to the same conclusion, would rather quit at take a lower paying job here in Colorado
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Posted 2018-05-22 3:59 PM (#705229 - in reply to #704916)
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Montgomergy finished his playing career in Dallas.

He was also born in Montreal.... played there... and was a Flyer. So, he may just flat out not like The Rangers
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Posted 2018-05-22 4:53 PM (#705230 - in reply to #705226)
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Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 11:48 AM

According to the video on the link... Jim Montgomery from the University of Denver, was offered the job by the Rangers and turned it down even though it was a lot more money.... to coach Dallas which I find interesting. Quinn was not the first choice. Maybe Montgomery didn't want to step into the NY media market, doesn't like the management above or thinks Dallas has better chances and players... maybe personal reasons... why turn down more money?


Also add's a mini rivalry with Dallas, every time we play them now, we'll see what team is better coached.



I remember having to work down in DC and deciding I'd rather quit and make less than work down there...just had an "opportunity" to go work in Chicago full time, and I came to the same conclusion, would rather quit at take a lower paying job here in Colorado


LOL... That's why I'm in Charlotte, no more $25k a year property taxes, parking tickets, long subway rides, etc etc etc... Still make NY money though as my company still operates there.





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Posted 2018-05-22 4:56 PM (#705231 - in reply to #705224)
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rjpny75 - 2018-05-22 3:48 PM

Montgomery wanted to stay in the Midwest, that's why he did not take the Rangers job


Oddly, Dallas isn't the midwest, it's more like if Beverly Hills and El Paso had a bastard son.


Very Funny... your on a roll today!!!




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Posted 2018-05-22 6:12 PM (#705232 - in reply to #704916)
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Personally I don’t think Vigneault would have won a cup with the In Gretzky’s prime Oilers. As far as Quinn and his team, all I ask is stick up for yourself and your teammates and your goaltender no matter what. Play the body consistently, have a f’n plan in your end, the neutral zone and the offensive zone, there’s only three zones is not that complicated, an let them buck.
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Posted 2018-05-22 6:36 PM (#705233 - in reply to #705232)
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Personally I don’t think Vigneault would have won a cup with the In Gretzky’s prime Oilers. As far as Quinn and his team, all I ask is stick up for yourself and your teammates and your goaltender no matter what. Play the body consistently, have a f’n plan in your end, the neutral zone and the offensive zone, there’s only three zones is not that complicated, an let them buck.


I'll never understand or ever heard of a Coach not speak to his players one on one... he had zero relationship with them and everything was directed through the assistance... How do players want to play for you or respect you. He used to speak to them in a group and call out players... what the fvvvckkk?

Good riddance.

Miller said he spoke more to Cooper in one day than he did to AV in 3 years.


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Posted 2018-05-22 6:44 PM (#705234 - in reply to #704916)
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AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series
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Posted 2018-05-22 6:51 PM (#705235 - in reply to #705234)
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM

AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series


...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.

I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.





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Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM

AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series


...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.

I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.




Yeah AV got way too long of a leash
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM

AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series


...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.

I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.





I wonder if he keeps Ruff around
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Posted 2018-05-22 8:29 PM (#705238 - in reply to #704916)
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If he reads this thread he will NEVER chew gum on the bench.
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Posted 2018-05-22 9:01 PM (#705239 - in reply to #705237)
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM

AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series


...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.

I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.





I wonder if he keeps Ruff around


Yes interesting thought... will they hire NHL experienced assistants for him, or let him pick who he wants?






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Posted 2018-05-22 9:50 PM (#705243 - in reply to #704916)
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The Avalanche were definitely grooming him to be their next head coach (or at least a solid "Plan B" if Roy ended up saying no) up until he bolted and took the BU job. He isn't at all inexperienced in pro hockey, so I'm quite hopeful this is going to be a smooth transition to the NHL. I think he'll benefit at the very least from the "dead coach bounce" you tend to see, and in the case where they clearly weren't playing their best under Vigneault, Quinn should be a breath of fresh air. I don't know if they'll be playoff bound or anything but I think they'll at the very least make things interesting.

I doubt Ruff sticks around, but maybe he will since there really isn't anything else around.
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Rranger - 2018-05-22 8:12 PM

Personally I don’t think Vigneault would have won a cup with the In Gretzky’s prime Oilers. As far as Quinn and his team, all I ask is stick up for yourself and your teammates and your goaltender no matter what. Play the body consistently, have a f’n plan in your end, the neutral zone and the offensive zone, there’s only three zones is not that complicated, an let them buck.


I'll never understand or ever heard of a Coach not speak to his players one on one... he had zero relationship with them and everything was directed through the assistance... How do players want to play for you or respect you. He used to speak to them in a group and call out players... what the fvvvckkk?

Good riddance.

Miller said he spoke more to Cooper in one day than he did to AV in 3 years.










Well after his performance here, I think his stock has sunk. As you mentioned a lot of his unsuccessful methods under scrutiny. There also didn’t appear to be much support for him in the dressing room after he got canned. He maybe sitting back thinking the next good situation like a Edmonton is going to come to him, but he might also be in for a big suprise when he gets possibly passed over.
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Posted 2018-05-23 8:01 AM (#705246 - in reply to #705239)
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Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 8:01 PM

robstones - 2018-05-22 9:17 PM

Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 8:51 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM

AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series


...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.

I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.





I wonder if he keeps Ruff around


Yes interesting thought... will they hire NHL experienced assistants for him, or let him pick who he wants?












I think he gets his own guys. Having a guy like Ruff who has spent his entire career in the NHL as a player and coach would be the ultimate monkey on Quinn's shoulder. Beyond establishing a working relationship with Ruff, would be the awkward Ruff's been there done that status. For a very long time. I can not fathom a new coach wanting that dynamic in his group. There are plenty of qualified career assistant coaches around to bring on board.
I don't see Ruff hanging around to work for Quinn anyways. I think last season was about picking Vigneaults brain for different ways and means of coaching, as a learning experience under a established NHL coach.. Unfortunately for Ruff 12 minutes into last season he realized Vigneault was a goof and suffered from tunnel vision, and knew only one way to play the game.. .
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I think I read reports that the official announcement will be made today some time.

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If Gorton kept Ruff around just so the new coach could fire him, I would have a newfound respect for JG.
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Posted 2018-05-23 1:15 PM (#705255 - in reply to #704916)
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I'm not happy with this hire. The guy is leaving his "dream job" for money. We all know that has worked out for mercenaries who have come to the NYR strictly for the money. I am sure there are a number of excellent coaches who would have come because the had a strong desire to coach the NYR - i.e., their "dream job". Also, Quinn has never one the "big one" at any of his stops as a head coach. It's been written that his teams play down to the competition - sound familiar? I think we'll see Gorts and his Boston contingent cleaned out in two years or less.
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I'm not happy with this hire. The guy is leaving his "dream job" for money. We all know that has worked out for mercenaries who have come to the NYR strictly for the money. I am sure there are a number of excellent coaches who would have come because the had a strong desire to coach the NYR - i.e., their "dream job". Also, Quinn has never one the "big one" at any of his stops as a head coach. It's been written that his teams play down to the competition - sound familiar? I think we'll see Gorts and his Boston contingent cleaned out in two years or less.
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There's no being happy or not happy about a new to the NHL coach, until we see what he can do with the team.

I'm not sure if the money is the only reason for taking the job, just becaise he said it was an offer he cpuldn't turn down....

BU being his dream job.... I guess you stop dreaming after you attain your goals? I can understand wanting to stay.... he's gotten in to a nice comfortable routine.... The past handful of years. He wasn't expecting the phone call. He wasn't asking to leave... so I could understand not pouncing on the opportunity when first presented with it.

I'm sure he talked it over with the family, and the money no doubt was a factor, but... come on....


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I think it’s a case of a bright guy Quinn playing one side the Rangers against his great situation at B.U., to me he maximized his get from the Rangers by doing so. Nothing the matter with being a good negotiator, a quality good coaches need to possess. Well done Mr. Quinn, I hope you are as good a coach as you are a negotiator.
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It will be a tough year, not expecting much this coming year. New coach, new style of play, new faces, young players, Hank a year older. The D is still the question, & that's not all of it.

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The D is still the question, & that's not all of it.
I have to disagree with this. The problem wasn't the players so much as the lack of any form of defensive structure.
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At this point in time the personnel is as much a problem as their guidance from the chewster was. Deangelo absolutely has to turn the corner on his career this season and prove he's a player. If Ogara, Gilmour, and Kampfer are still stumbling about the Rangers are going nowhere and it doesnt matter if Scotty Bowman is coaching. They need a body or two at least, solid capable NHL defensemen. If Hajek and Lindgren don't come in and earn spots, Gorton better have a plan B.
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At this point in time the personnel is as much a problem as their guidance from the chewster was. Deangelo absolutely has to turn the corner on his career this season and prove he's a player. If Ogara, Gilmour, and Kampfer are still stumbling about the Rangers are going nowhere and it doesnt matter if Scotty Bowman is coaching. They need a body or two at least, solid capable NHL defensemen. If Hajek and Lindgren don't come in and earn spots, Gorton better have a plan B.

Yep....Thats why he has to go out and get a Trouba or sign a Luke Schenn...The 3 stooges you mentioned above should never be anything more than an emergency call up...I would try Gilmour at forward...With his speed you try to find a use for him...but its not at the D position in the NHL
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At this point in time the personnel is as much a problem as their guidance from the chewster was. Deangelo absolutely has to turn the corner on his career this season and prove he's a player. If Ogara, Gilmour, and Kampfer are still stumbling about the Rangers are going nowhere and it doesnt matter if Scotty Bowman is coaching. They need a body or two at least, solid capable NHL defensemen. If Hajek and Lindgren don't come in and earn spots, Gorton better have a plan B.

Yep....Thats why he has to go out and get a Trouba or sign a Luke Schenn...The 3 stooges you mentioned above should never be anything more than an emergency call up...I would try Gilmour at forward...With his speed you try to find a use for him...but its not at the D position in the NHL





I hold out a bit of hope for Gilmour, but he has to improve physically and defensively. He's had his look, knows where he stands, and should be somewhere working on his shortcomings, and he better understand he has to elevate his game to stick. He has to come to camp and be reliable in his end, and step up the use of his many offensive talents. He's a guy that could fall off a cliff or round into a Torey Krug type. Be interesting to see how he does in camp.
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Yeah totally...thats his hill to climb to make it...He is also not "young" either ...we got our first look at him this year and he is already 25
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Yeah totally...thats his hill to climb to make it...He is also not "young" either ...we got our first look at him this year and he is already 25





It is definitely now or never for him.
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 7:40 AM

Yeah totally...thats his hill to climb to make it...He is also not "young" either ...we got our first look at him this year and he is already 25





It is definitely now or never for him.

Regina game is on NHL now...How did Hijack do?
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Gorton Hated AV


SO DID I !!
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 11:57 AM

Gorton Hated AV


SO DID I !!

Hahaha #ME Too EASILY
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 11:57 AM

Gorton Hated AV


SO DID I !!





Lol and me to.
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Oh and we do have a new coach.
I saw it on MSG just recently.
Too much water is my first observation.
He has to make sure to have a bathroom dedicated just to him and close enough to the bench.The Rhode Island life as he new it is no more.
This is New York City!
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If you ask me he is crazy to leave that job @ a great hockey school in the area where he grew up & lives & doesn't really get challenged & questioned & critisized to take a job in the NHL (ave 3-4 years tops) & on top of that with the Rangers. If you ask me, you're crazy.
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Oh and we do have a new coach.
I saw it on MSG just recently.
Too much water is my first observation.
He has to make sure to have a bathroom dedicated just to him and close enough to the bench.The Rhode Island life as he new it is no more.
This is New York City!

hahaha ...he has a pro-cess too ! He is def not a Pomona guy or a Bolshevik
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Quinn is not a slam dunk, nobody ever is. His resume is not riddled with championships. His AHL Lock Erie Monster's coaching stint included only one first round playoff exit in three years, as a Pro head coach. . Without digging into his available roster at the time I'll assume the roster was not good enough and hope he did a very good job with what he had.
Subscribing to the theory a monkey is better than Vigneault, and seeing and reading some of Quinn's interviews I have hope he can do a good job. College hockey, and NHL Hockey are a lot different and Quinn will have to figure it out quick.
One of the things I read in one of his interviews and I'd never really thought had changed, is the NHL has evolved into a league where there is a lot of development involved in the coaching of the young players. In the "old" days, you could either play or you were gone. Today teams are willing to have young players eating up minimal cap space on the bottom end of the roster, filled with promise but requiring further development. The Rangers have their share and that should fit right in Quinn's wheelhouse. I have little doubt about Quinn's ability to develop players, but some about his ability to successfully negotiate the planning to successfully get through a NHL season and playoffs. High on his list will be balancing practice time and rest. I wish him well, the Ranger players need some good coaching and planning and here's hoping he can provide it.
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Quinn is not a slam dunk, nobody ever is. His resume is not riddled with championships. His AHL Lock Erie Monster's coaching stint included only one first round playoff exit in three years, as a Pro head coach. . Without digging into his available roster at the time I'll assume the roster was not good enough and hope he did a very good job with what he had.
Subscribing to the theory a monkey is better than Vigneault, and seeing and reading some of Quinn's interviews I have hope he can do a good job. College hockey, and NHL Hockey are a lot different and Quinn will have to figure it out quick.
One of the things I read in one of his interviews and I'd never really thought had changed, is the NHL has evolved into a league where there is a lot of development involved in the coaching of the young players. In the "old" days, you could either play or you were gone. Today teams are willing to have young players eating up minimal cap space on the bottom end of the roster, filled with promise but requiring further development. The Rangers have their share and that should fit right in Quinn's wheelhouse. I have little doubt about Quinn's ability to develop players, but some about his ability to successfully negotiate the planning to successfully get through a NHL season and playoffs. High on his list will be balancing practice time and rest. I wish him well, the Ranger players need some good coaching and planning and here's hoping he can provide it.

I agree. From all I'm hearing and reading, Quinn's biggest asset is development of young players --- something that has been lacking in this organization for decades. It's going to take 1-2 years to realy see what these kids can do.

Regarding the "old" days comment -- again, you are correct. The difference is that roster spots were minimal then and it was usually exceptional prospects that got onto the roster (another difference is the youngster was given the ice time to see what he had -- not glued to the bench or pressbox because of a mistake). Today, there are just too many teams,. the result of which is that there is a great deal of marginal talent, many of whom would not be in the NHL otherwise.

(On a side note -- I've had this feeling that Rangers had their eye on Quinn for a number of years; moreso now that I've learned how long he and Gorton (and Drury) have been friends and talking. But that's just me.)

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Right now he is @500
Not bad for a start.
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And NO gum!






Wooo Hooooo no more chewy.
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Interesting interview, don't have to read between the lines with his comments, comes out & says it, don't see this often:

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/kevin-hayes-on-coach-quinn/t-27743...
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Interesting interview, don't have to read between the lines with his comments, comes out & says it, don't see this often:

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/kevin-hayes-on-coach-quinn/t-27743...


First off.. Hayes talking to Quinn is more than he ever interacted with AV for 3-4 years.

" He holds everyone accountable, old guys, new guys, he's not playing favorites with anyone, older guys should hold younger guys accountable, and the same the other way as well, and that's going to be something new in this organization, and he's going to be the ring leader of that." HAYES.

Sounds like the basics of coaching.... But I guess AV had an other game plan.
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-01 2:12 PM

Interesting interview, don't have to read between the lines with his comments, comes out & says it, don't see this often:

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/kevin-hayes-on-coach-quinn/t-27743...


First off.. Hayes talking to Quinn is more than he ever interacted with AV for 3-4 years.

" He holds everyone accountable, old guys, new guys, he's not playing favorites with anyone, older guys should hold younger guys accountable, and the same the other way as well, and that's going to be something new in this organization, and he's going to be the ring leader of that." HAYES.

Sounds like the basics of coaching.... But I guess AV had an other game plan.





Chewy relies on having real good players that can do it on their own. If they require instructions he’s hooped.
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Andy Bathgate - 2018-06-01 4:32 PM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-01 2:12 PM

Interesting interview, don't have to read between the lines with his comments, comes out & says it, don't see this often:

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/kevin-hayes-on-coach-quinn/t-27743...


First off.. Hayes talking to Quinn is more than he ever interacted with AV for 3-4 years.

" He holds everyone accountable, old guys, new guys, he's not playing favorites with anyone, older guys should hold younger guys accountable, and the same the other way as well, and that's going to be something new in this organization, and he's going to be the ring leader of that." HAYES.

Sounds like the basics of coaching.... But I guess AV had an other game plan.





Chewy relies on having real good players that can do it on their own. If they require instructions he’s hooped.

He didn’t have enough pairs of twins to win the SC.
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Rranger - 2018-06-01 8:55 PM

Andy Bathgate - 2018-06-01 4:32 PM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-01 2:12 PM

Interesting interview, don't have to read between the lines with his comments, comes out & says it, don't see this often:

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/kevin-hayes-on-coach-quinn/t-27743...


First off.. Hayes talking to Quinn is more than he ever interacted with AV for 3-4 years.

" He holds everyone accountable, old guys, new guys, he's not playing favorites with anyone, older guys should hold younger guys accountable, and the same the other way as well, and that's going to be something new in this organization, and he's going to be the ring leader of that." HAYES.

Sounds like the basics of coaching.... But I guess AV had an other game plan.





Chewy relies on having real good players that can do it on their own. If they require instructions he’s hooped.

He didn’t have enough pairs of twins to win the SC.






He will never win a cup.
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Though he is a best chewing gum coach.





He was a dork.
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Hey, Mr. Quinn, take notes :-)

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David Quinn and Doug Weight were both on the '91-'92 Binghamton Rangers.... Weight's rookie season with NYR.

Being that Weight has been canned by Lamoriello, I see him as a candidate for running The Rangers' offense
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Posted 2018-06-05 3:09 PM (#706027 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-06-06 7:47 AM (#706045 - in reply to #704916)
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Always liked Weight. Sad when they traded him.
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Posted 2018-06-06 7:51 AM (#706046 - in reply to #706045)
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Always liked Weight. Sad when they traded him.

Yep....terrible and stupid trade
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Posted 2018-06-06 8:05 AM (#706048 - in reply to #704916)
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Who they got back, I forget?
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Posted 2018-06-06 8:08 AM (#706050 - in reply to #706048)
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Who they got back, I forget?

Esa Tikkanen....and even worse...when the Oil came to town to play us...Weight had to go to the visitors dressing room....HIDEOUS trade
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Posted 2018-06-06 8:10 AM (#706051 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-06-06 8:11 AM (#706052 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-06-06 9:53 AM (#706059 - in reply to #706050)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 10:08 AM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-06 10:05 AM

Who they got back, I forget?

Esa Tikkanen....and even worse...when the Oil came to town to play us...Weight had to go to the visitors dressing room....HIDEOUS trade


Do we win the cup with Weight in there instead of Tikkanen?
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Posted 2018-06-06 10:16 AM (#706066 - in reply to #706059)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 10:08 AM

LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-06 10:05 AM

Who they got back, I forget?

Esa Tikkanen....and even worse...when the Oil came to town to play us...Weight had to go to the visitors dressing room....HIDEOUS trade


Do we win the cup with Weight in there instead of Tikkanen?

Yes! but we were the best team in the NHL that year.... we did not need to make all of those moves.....and we traded our entire next generation Rangers...we paid for that for at least 10 years
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Posted 2018-06-06 11:57 AM (#706068 - in reply to #706066)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-06 10:05 AM

Who they got back, I forget?

Esa Tikkanen....and even worse...when the Oil came to town to play us...Weight had to go to the visitors dressing room....HIDEOUS trade


Do we win the cup with Weight in there instead of Tikkanen?

Yes! but we were the best team in the NHL that year.... we did not need to make all of those moves.....and we traded our entire next generation Rangers...we paid for that for at least 10 years


The year we traded for Tikk...we missed the playoffs, so we were far from the best team that year.
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Posted 2018-06-06 12:43 PM (#706069 - in reply to #704916)
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I hear ya...I should of spelled it out better...
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Posted 2018-06-06 5:30 PM (#706073 - in reply to #704916)
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Esa scored 22g 32a
Weight scored 24g 50a

The Oilers didn't make the playoffs... Tikkanen had 4g 4a

Yeah, I think they still win The Cup
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Posted 2018-06-06 5:59 PM (#706074 - in reply to #706073)
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Hard to say if they win the Cup with Weight or Gardner, even though they were having great years... some players are playoff clutch and some aren't. Tik took a lot opposing players off their games.

How was Weight's playoff carreer ? 97 games, 23 goals, ... not great, his name is on the cup for 06... in 23 playoff games that year he had 3 goals.






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Posted 2018-06-06 6:16 PM (#706075 - in reply to #704916)
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Going forward with Weight, Amonte, Marchant, Nordstrom along with Leetch , Graves, Kovalev, Beuk, Mess, Richter etc...We would have been a dam good hockey team for many years....Instead we went to pot
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Posted 2018-06-06 8:20 PM (#706076 - in reply to #706075)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:16 PM

Going forward with Weight, Amonte, Marchant, Nordstrom along with Leetch , Graves, Kovalev, Beuk, Mess, Richter etc...We would have been a dam good hockey team for many years....Instead we went to pot


We got close with #99.

But I agree... we sold our soul to the Devil... But that's what it took to slay the dragon or the Curse !!! LOL.

What will it take to break Sam Nosen's new curse "and this one will last a lifetime" ?




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Posted 2018-06-07 8:05 AM (#706084 - in reply to #706076)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:16 PM

Going forward with Weight, Amonte, Marchant, Nordstrom along with Leetch , Graves, Kovalev, Beuk, Mess, Richter etc...We would have been a dam good hockey team for many years....Instead we went to pot


We got close with #99.

But I agree... we sold our soul to the Devil... But that's what it took to slay the dragon or the Curse !!! LOL.

What will it take to break Sam Nosen's new curse "and this one will last a lifetime" ?







I agree it was do everything humanly possible trade wise to win that Cup. Especially with Leetch, Richter, Kovalev and Messier at their best. The aftermath was predictable but necessary to obtain the pieces to win. I think people forget how close that final game came to overtime and then what. I'll take the cup. I also think Smith's management skills went down the toilet after the cup with a boatload of very questionable moves.
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Posted 2018-06-07 9:02 AM (#706087 - in reply to #704916)
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My opinion is that if we hold on to Weight, Amonte, Marchant, Norstrom, we do not win the Cup in 94. These guys were all great in their own regard but remember, in 94 they were not half the players they turned out to be. (Amonte was pretty close but had an off year)

So 94 would have been another premature exit. However if these guys hung around and began contributing in addition to Messier, Leetch, Kovalev, Graves, PLUS Gretzky, then my guess is that we would have a much better shot at winning multiple Cups from 96-99. This would have been when the older guys were in their late prime, and the younger guys were entering their prime. Also Richter was at the top of his game in those years.

Hindsight is 20/20. I'll take 94 any day of the week.
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Posted 2018-06-07 9:17 AM (#706091 - in reply to #704916)
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Amonte and Marchant were wins

I'm not sold on Weight and Gartner, though

There's no way of knowing for sure, but I think The Rangers would've been just fine with Weight and Gartner instead of Tikkanen and Andersson
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Posted 2018-06-07 11:07 AM (#706092 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-06-07 12:30 PM (#706093 - in reply to #704916)
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I think if we don't make the trades we made in 94, we don't get past the devils to advance to the Finals...
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Posted 2018-06-07 5:05 PM (#706097 - in reply to #706093)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-06-07 2:30 PM

I think if we don't make the trades we made in 94, we don't get past the devils to advance to the Finals...

Mike’s reaction to this post would be priceless to see.

Very accurate in every aspect of that post to laugh at!Thank you!
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Posted 2018-06-07 5:21 PM (#706098 - in reply to #706097)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-06-07 2:30 PM

I think if we don't make the trades we made in 94, we don't get past the devils to advance to the Finals...

Mike’s reaction to this post would be priceless to see.

Very accurate in every aspect of that post to laugh at!Thank you!

Take it back!
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Posted 2018-06-07 5:42 PM (#706101 - in reply to #704916)
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Kevin Lowe and Marty McSorley might be available via free agency since they are over 35 and haven’t played in last few years.
I mean what we have got to lose?A season or two?

It’s 1994 in 2018.
Madison Square Garden the Time Capsule .

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Posted 2018-06-07 5:55 PM (#706102 - in reply to #706101)
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Kevin Lowe and Marty McSorley might be available via free agency since they are over 35 and haven’t played in last few years.
I mean what we have got to lose?A season or two?

It’s 1994 in 2018.
Madison Square Garden the Time Capsule .

And they gave him Greshners #4 too! blasphemy
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Posted 2018-06-07 10:43 PM (#706273 - in reply to #706093)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-06-07 2:30 PM

I think if we don't make the trades we made in 94, we don't get past the devils to advance to the Finals...


... or we win in 4-5 games... we'll never know.








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Posted 2018-06-08 10:02 AM (#706284 - in reply to #706091)
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robstones - 2018-06-07 10:17 AM

Amonte and Marchant were wins

I'm not sold on Weight and Gartner, though

There's no way of knowing for sure, but I think The Rangers would've been just fine with Weight and Gartner instead of Tikkanen and Andersson


Hard to say. Don't underestimate the value of a little sandpaper in the lineup, especially in that era. It was a different game then.
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Posted 2018-06-17 4:41 PM (#706506 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-10-11 12:08 PM (#710985 - in reply to #704916)
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For those that watch the coach interviews on NYR Web Site ... does he seem irritated already, about to loose it? Ha ha it seems that way to me 3 games into the season. Welcome to NY! Welcome to the Rangers!
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-10-11 2:08 PM

For those that watch the coach interviews on NYR Web Site ... does he seem irritated already, about to loose it? Ha ha it seems that way to me 3 games into the season. Welcome to NY! Welcome to the Rangers!
Welcome to the Jungle baby....you're gonna die...
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Posted 2018-10-11 1:04 PM (#710988 - in reply to #704916)
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I Would do it all over again, we ended the `1940 Chant... Ill take that any day
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I Would do it all over again, we ended the `1940 Chant... Ill take that any day

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Posted 2018-10-11 7:51 PM (#711222 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-11-07 6:44 PM (#713492 - in reply to #704916)
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Grabner wth goal #4 tonight

Shorthanded
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Grabner wth goal #4 tonight

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Posted 2018-11-09 7:11 AM (#713511 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-11-10 9:49 AM (#713735 - in reply to #706075)
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Mikey Red - 2018-06-06 8:16 PM

Going forward with Weight, Amonte, Marchant, Nordstrom along with Leetch , Graves, Kovalev, Beuk, Mess, Richter etc...We would have been a dam good hockey team for many years....Instead we went to pot


Amonte got us Noonan and Matteau. We keep Amonte and there is no "Matteau! Matteau! Matteau Stephane Matteau!" and no Cup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ziarOEosIc
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Posted 2018-11-10 9:55 AM (#713736 - in reply to #704916)
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Maybe....Maybe not....Either way its still a horrendous trade....Just look at how all 3 guys careers went
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Posted 2018-11-13 4:17 PM (#714075 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-11-13 6:20 PM (#714078 - in reply to #704916)
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Posted 2018-11-13 6:27 PM (#714081 - in reply to #704916)
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