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RANGERNUT
Posted 2017-06-20 5:12 AM (#676742)
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It was reported last week that Derek Stepan's name has been pretty prominent in trade talks and that teams such as Arizona have a lot of interest in him.

It's also been reported that the Rangers won't trade Stepan unless they receive a top-pair right handed defenseman.

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concust
Posted 2017-06-20 6:07 AM (#676743 - in reply to #676742)
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"Depends on the return" is the only logical answer.

For Trouba? Yes.
For two minor leaguers? No.



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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-20 8:54 AM (#676746 - in reply to #676742)
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Best answer: I could care less.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-20 8:57 AM (#676747 - in reply to #676746)
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MJ....Wahoos running away with the Central lol
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sureshore
Posted 2017-06-20 9:31 AM (#676748 - in reply to #676743)
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concust - 2017-06-20 8:07 AM

"Depends on the return" is the only logical answer.

For Trouba? Yes.
For two minor leaguers? No.



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robstones
Posted 2017-06-20 9:53 AM (#676749 - in reply to #676742)
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I could see Stepan going to Arizona for the 24th overall pick and Duclair

Then Rangers trading that 1st rounder, Duclair, and one of Klein, Holden, or Staal to The Jets for Trouba ??
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Mandar
Posted 2017-06-20 10:12 AM (#676750 - in reply to #676749)
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robstones - 2017-06-20 11:53 AM

I could see Stepan going to Arizona for the 24th overall pick and Duclair

Then Rangers trading that 1st rounder, Duclair, and one of Klein, Holden, or Staal to The Jets for Trouba ??


Duclair? nononononono.

They wouldn't ask for Duclair...they would ask for either Strome, Dvorak, or Domi along with the 24th overall (or the 7th overall if they could get it).
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robstones
Posted 2017-06-20 11:03 AM (#676751 - in reply to #676750)
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Mandar - 2017-06-20 12:12 PM

robstones - 2017-06-20 11:53 AM

I could see Stepan going to Arizona for the 24th overall pick and Duclair

Then Rangers trading that 1st rounder, Duclair, and one of Klein, Holden, or Staal to The Jets for Trouba ??


Duclair? nononononono.

They wouldn't ask for Duclair...they would ask for either Strome, Dvorak, or Domi along with the 24th overall (or the 7th overall if they could get it).


Either way works for me
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Gravey09
Posted 2017-06-20 11:03 AM (#676752 - in reply to #676742)
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yeah .... the Stepan/McD for McKinnon/barrie fantasy... but really why not? lost with ya we can lose without ya but might win ???
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Fish
Posted 2017-06-20 1:04 PM (#676753 - in reply to #676742)
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I don't WANT him traded, but I'd interested to see what was being offered. I think to Brooks' column yesterday, he has a lot of value to the team, but the team really needs help on the right side D, so if they can make something work, I think you look at it.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-20 7:30 PM (#676754 - in reply to #676743)
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concust - 2017-06-20 6:07 AM

"Depends on the return" is the only logical answer.

For Trouba? Yes.
For two minor leaguers? No.





NO WAY would anyone would take Stepan in exchange for Trouba!
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robstones
Posted 2017-06-20 8:39 PM (#676755 - in reply to #676754)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-06-20 9:30 PM

concust - 2017-06-20 6:07 AM

"Depends on the return" is the only logical answer.

For Trouba? Yes.
For two minor leaguers? No.





NO WAY would anyone would take Stepan in exchange for Trouba!


The scenario is a three way deal with say, Arizona, where Stepan yields picks and/or prospects and that is flipped to The Jets for Trouba

Arizona hasn't had a center as good as Stepan since Mike Comrie on '05-'06

Matt Lombardi had a good season for them once, and Peter Mueller...... Otherwise it's been Hanzal and Vermette's show

I'm starting to think Stepan's return could be huge if dealt to the Yotes.

Edited by robstones 2017-06-20 8:40 PM
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concust
Posted 2017-06-21 5:13 AM (#676756 - in reply to #676742)
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Right, and with the exp draft today it's going to be bedlam as far as trades are concerned.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-21 6:56 AM (#676757 - in reply to #676742)
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Would be awesome if the Rangers could somehow get Trouba.

Problem is with this proposed or speculated 3 team deal how could the picks and or prospects that Stepan can yield from Arizona be worthy enough to land Trouba??



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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-21 7:03 AM (#676758 - in reply to #676742)
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Just don't see WPG giving away Trouba for what stepans return is. Trouba has MUCH MORE trade value than stepan

Edited by Rangerjunkie 2017-06-21 7:05 AM
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-21 8:13 AM (#676759 - in reply to #676758)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-06-21 9:03 AM

Just don't see WPG giving away Trouba for what stepans return is. Trouba has MUCH MORE trade value than stepan


By ye olde "believe Rangers players are worth more than they are" method.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 8:56 AM (#676760 - in reply to #676759)
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Add cement head Kreider in there and then you can have Trouba... I do it in a heartbeat
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 9:17 AM (#676761 - in reply to #676742)
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There are not many guys on this team that are not off limits of being told "pack your sh!t"
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ej17
Posted 2017-06-21 9:49 AM (#676762 - in reply to #676760)
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Mikey Red - 2017-06-21 10:56 AM

Add cement head Kreider in there and then you can have Trouba... I do it in a heartbeat

Im done with Kreider... He is the most frustrating player since Kovy .... He plays when he wants to and takes off when he wants to.. Get rid of this POS while you can
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 10:15 AM (#676763 - in reply to #676762)
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ej17 - 2017-06-21 9:49 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-21 10:56 AM

Add cement head Kreider in there and then you can have Trouba... I do it in a heartbeat

Im done with Kreider... He is the most frustrating player since Kovy .... He plays when he wants to and takes off when he wants to.. Get rid of this POS while you can

Yep absolutely total enigma
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-06-21 10:43 AM (#676764 - in reply to #676747)
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Mikey Red - 2017-06-20 10:57 AM

MJ....Wahoos running away with the Central lol


And prison stripes are sinking fast in East.
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robstones
Posted 2017-06-21 11:18 AM (#676765 - in reply to #676758)
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Rangerjunkie - 2017-06-21 9:03 AM

Just don't see WPG giving away Trouba for what stepans return is. Trouba has MUCH MORE trade value than stepan


Yeah we might have to throw in a little bit more, but there's two factors

1) Trouba wants out... or at least he did, idk why that would've changed

2) Arizona needs a center in the worst way. Them overpaying isn't out of the question.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-21 11:49 AM (#676766 - in reply to #676742)
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Well then let's get to thrown!!!
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 12:12 PM (#676767 - in reply to #676764)
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Mjolnir - 2017-06-21 10:43 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-06-20 10:57 AM

MJ....Wahoos running away with the Central lol


And prison stripes are sinking fast in East.

lol don't let RJ see that
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-06-21 1:46 PM (#676769 - in reply to #676742)
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I see it!!

They are dropping like a stone!
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 2:28 PM (#676773 - in reply to #676742)
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Lol
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2017-06-21 6:28 PM (#676790 - in reply to #676742)
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How do they not trade him? He's the worse #1 center on faceoffs in the league, crap on the PP....I can't see that getting any better... he's losing a Step. Never a great skater and losing value everyday. On most teams he's a bottom 6 player.







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Mcphee
Posted 2017-06-21 7:38 PM (#676793 - in reply to #676790)
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I think losing Lindberg is gonna make it tougher to trade Stepan now.You can't completely weaken one position in order to strenghthen another.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 8:00 PM (#676797 - in reply to #676793)
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Mcphee - 2017-06-21 7:38 PM

I think losing Lindberg is gonna make it tougher to trade Stepan now.You can't completely weaken one position in order to strenghthen another.
4th line centers can be had via free agency...This is not losing 1993-1994 Pavel Bure
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Mcphee
Posted 2017-06-21 8:05 PM (#676798 - in reply to #676797)
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I see Lindberg as a third line center not fourth.He was the best center in the playoffs this year.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 8:06 PM (#676799 - in reply to #676798)
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Mcphee - 2017-06-21 8:05 PM

I see Lindberg as a third line center not fourth.He was the best center in the playoffs this year.

Very replaceable...Yes he was good in the 2 rounds of play offs
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 8:08 PM (#676800 - in reply to #676742)
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If we can trade Stepan...Our centers could be Zib, Hayes, Miller and a 4th
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Mcphee
Posted 2017-06-21 8:14 PM (#676803 - in reply to #676800)
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Sorry but Hayes as the second line center is an indictment of the center talent on this team.I would have no problem with him being moved for someone who is a little smaller,but uses the body more and shows up in the playoffs.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-06-21 8:15 PM (#676804 - in reply to #676742)
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Yes Im not opposed to that either but Lindbergh is not better than any of them
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Mcphee
Posted 2017-06-21 8:29 PM (#676806 - in reply to #676800)
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Mikey Red - 2017-06-21 10:08 PM

If we can trade Stepan...Our centers could be Zib, Hayes, Miller and a 4th
The problem with that is they have to break up the Miller-Hayes line which was the best line on the team for awhile last year.Once again I'm no fan of Hayes(disappears way too much) but that line carried them for at least 20 games last season.Hayes and Kreider seem to have the same disappearing problem.You would hope that the games that they don't have it offensively they would be able to at least bring some physicality to the game but a) I don't think Hayes has it in him,and b)Kreider had it in him,but has seemed to lost his physical edge under this coach.
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