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robstones
Posted 2017-07-04 1:03 PM (#677550)
Subject: OFFICIAL: Rangers sign C David Desharnais 1 year/$1m



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Apparenlty we signed another midget

https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2017/7/4/15919314/report-rangers-to-...

Hope Zuccs doesn't mind not being the only little person on the team.... that is what they like being called, right? Little people.....

This isn't the droid I was looking for...

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Posted 2017-07-04 1:20 PM (#677551 - in reply to #677550)
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Shattenkirk NYR
Posted 2017-07-04 1:21 PM (#677552 - in reply to #677550)
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My assumption is he is added for depth and potential 4th line C duties. He is solid on face-offs (51% in his career) and can score 10 goals or so and 30 points or so over the full season. A better version of D. Moore I think. So if the 4th line C mix is his role, I have no issue with this signing. BUT if Gorton is saying okay here is the C we needed to add, now we are set, then I have an issue with this move.

We have cap space left, especially once Klein officially retires (and I think we should also move Holden's 1.65 mill), so I have to think we'll be adding another forward/C to fill the top 9 role. And Desharais will be the 4th line guy who can play a couple of games as the 3rd line guy if someone misses some games.

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-04 1:25 PM (#677553 - in reply to #677550)
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Guess Lias knows where he's playing next Season
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-07-04 1:31 PM (#677554 - in reply to #677550)
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Why would Lias know that? Desharnais f'n blows. He's hardly any competition. I suspect he was signed for Hartford because the wings down there did jack last year.
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Shattenkirk NYR
Posted 2017-07-04 1:42 PM (#677555 - in reply to #677550)
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Seems unlikely to me we signed him to a 1-year 1 mill one-way deal to be in Hartford. Not saying he can't get cut or sent down, if he stinks he'll be gone, but first pass I think he is here to be the 4th line C if all things are equal.

Andersson will need to be special in training camp to make the jump right to the NHL in his first year in North America (and maybe he will be). If he is special, awesome he is up. And if he is just normal/plays well I have zero issue with him getting some NA seasoning for a year or at least to start the year. No issue with that.





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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 1:58 PM (#677556 - in reply to #677550)
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Terrible signing. Waste of a training camp spot. If he's a centre on this team then the Rangers are out of the playoffs.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 1:59 PM (#677557 - in reply to #677550)
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Terrible signing. Waste of a training camp spot. If he's a centre on this team then the Rangers are out of the playoffs.
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-07-04 2:00 PM (#677558 - in reply to #677550)
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Kind of a head scratcher...........
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-04 2:12 PM (#677559 - in reply to #677554)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-04 1:31 PM

Why would Lias know that? Desharnais f'n blows. He's hardly any competition. I suspect he was signed for Hartford because the wings down there did jack last year.

Lias is 18 yrs old and not Connor MacDavid...Desharnais is French ...he can do no wrong under double mint
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Posted 2017-07-04 2:27 PM (#677560 - in reply to #677559)
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Typical AV type of player. The nightmare continues .....
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robstones
Posted 2017-07-04 2:35 PM (#677561 - in reply to #677550)
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We need extras, it's not that much of a head scratcher. If Lias Andersson isn't as good or better than this guy, then he probably could use another year in Sweden or Hartford anyway.

Either way, we need someone to be the extra. Someone who can produce at the NHL level.... not Boo....

Rangers like guys who can skate, and Desharnais can skate. This definitely creates competition for Andersson, so now he has every reason to show up and play his best at all times.

Did we think they were just going to give him the spot? I think he can make the cut still, but it would be foolish to not have insurance just in case Lias isn't ready...

I just wonder if this is what Gorton meant when he said we were going to get a center...

Is our depth chart
Zibanejad
Miller
Hayes
Andersson/Desharnais
?
Or is there a trade brewing ...

Nash Zibanejad Zuccarello
Kreider Miller Buchnevich
Grabner Hayes Vesey
Desharnais Andersson Fast

They're not done...

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Shattenkirk NYR
Posted 2017-07-04 2:54 PM (#677563 - in reply to #677550)
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I'm with rob. Maybe a little overreaction to signing a 4th line C hedge in case an 18-year old isn't ready for the NHL from day one. Let's not make it more than it is. We are not done as rob wrote.


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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-07-04 3:22 PM (#677565 - in reply to #677550)
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I'm going with some that Ruff is going to replace AV after this year unless the Rangers do something very impressive. Back to hard nosed hockey under Ruff.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 5:09 PM (#677571 - in reply to #677550)
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Just because the Rangers need centres doesn't mean they should sign just anybody. Gorton deepened a substantial centerman hole created by the loss of Lindbergh, by trading Stepan and using his cap space to sign a defenseman who spent most of last season on the third pair of both his teams. Rangers plan sounds like the new $6,000,000 man is going to play first pair. Sounds like unique, Vigneault logic.
Now they sign Nathan Gerbe's twin, and if he isn't scoring he is useless. To suggest on here he's a potential fourth line centre is laughable. If your blind, or have a short memory and don't remember the way Lindbergh played in the playoffs, watch a tape or two. That's the kind of fourth line centre you want, not some undersized retread without a ounce of physicality in his body, or much success in his background.
If the Rangers keep acquiring players and moving them up, or in this case into the lineup, they will be headed down in the standings.
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Posted 2017-07-04 5:24 PM (#677572 - in reply to #677550)
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Didn't we do the Nathan Gerbe experiment last season?
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Rangerjunkie
Posted 2017-07-04 5:29 PM (#677570 - in reply to #677550)
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Adam Rotter says he will compete for the third line center, where others say fourth line center.
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robstones
Posted 2017-07-04 5:29 PM (#677573 - in reply to #677550)
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It's all a matter of if they aquire another forward.... another center...

If they get, say Duchene... I know it aint happening, but I'll use him as an example of a player who would clearly be in the top 6.... then Desharnais will have a hard time cracking the lineup as anything but a 4th line center.
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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 5:30 PM (#677574 - in reply to #677572)
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Steady Eddie - 2017-07-04 4:24 PM

Didn't we do the Nathan Gerbe experiment last season?




Absolutely they did. This move has Gorton wants a centre but cant find one and has no target in mind, written all over it. He has no trade on the go or it would have been done. I can hardly wait til he signs a replacement for Lindbergh, because big D is replacing Stepan at this point in time. If his plan is to improve the Rangers entry draft position I'd say he's well on his way.
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robstones
Posted 2017-07-04 6:03 PM (#677579 - in reply to #677550)
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They may not need another center.... Miller is good.

He out produced Stepan last year.

And Shattenkirk replaces Stepan's offensive output

Zibanejad
Miller
Hayes

Are fine.... but we'd probably need another top 9 forward. That is unless they're banking on Buchnevich elevating his game, which is possible.

A top line center would be ideal, but all they really need is a guy who can put in close to 20 goals.

Desharnais is better than Gerbe.....
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-04 6:21 PM (#677580 - in reply to #677550)
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3 #1's traded away over that last few years with nothing to show for it
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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 6:23 PM (#677582 - in reply to #677579)
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robstones - 2017-07-04 5:03 PM

They may not need another center.... Miller is good.

He out produced Stepan last year.

And Shattenkirk replaces Stepan's offensive output

Zibanejad
Miller
Hayes

Are fine.... but we'd probably need another top 9 forward. That is unless they're banking on Buchnevich elevating his game, which is possible.

A top line center would be ideal, but all they really need is a guy who can put in close to 20 goals.

Desharnais is better than Gerbe.....


We all know about Miller except the bonehead that never plays him there. And if by some chance he does play there then it's stupid to sign and miscast big D as a fourth line center, because he's not. He is here to replace Stepan until Gorton does something different. Miller will never play center for Vigneault.
Neither Gerbe or big D are any good. Dumb signing.

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Shattenkirk NYR
Posted 2017-07-04 6:27 PM (#677585 - in reply to #677550)
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Anger and going crazy over signing a 4th line C for 1 mill for a year. I mean come on now, way over the top. These guys cannot win with you. Like you are all ready to pounce at anything that doesn't fit your POV.

If Gorton is done and this is his C added for the top 9, YES I have a big issue with it. If we still add another top 9 C/forward and this is a 4th line depth move, which is what I think right now, SETTLE DOWN it isn't a big deal either way. You can clearly do worse at the 4th line C spot.




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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 6:38 PM (#677587 - in reply to #677585)
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Shattenkirk NYR - 2017-07-04 5:27 PM

Anger and going crazy over signing a 4th line C for 1 mill for a year. I mean come on now, way over the top. These guys cannot win with you. Like you are all ready to pounce at anything that doesn't fit your POV.

If Gorton is done and this is his C added for the top 9, YES I have a big issue with it. If we still add another top 9 C/forward and this is a 4th line depth move, which is what I think right now, SETTLE DOWN it isn't a big deal either way. You can clearly do worse at the 4th line C spot.






It's a message board . Nobody is angry or going crazy. They are voicing their opinion, you know like you do. Your problem is if someone doesn't agree with you, it's wrong. So spare me the board conscience crap.
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Posted 2017-07-04 6:48 PM (#677588 - in reply to #677550)
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Not wrong at all. Opinions are not wrong or right, they are opinions not facts. I am simply trying to say relax guys it is a 4th line C. Seems excessive to say terrible signing, head scratcher, nightmare continues over the signing of a 4th line C to a one-year deal. A 4th line C better than D. Moore and in the same ballpark as B. Boyle, who were two of our 4th line C's prior to Lindberg. And for one mill it isn't a bad move, frankly it is a whatever move I think.

I am only saying let's stay calm and give Gorton a chance to finish this off in a good fashion hopefully. Not saying your opinion is right or wrong. You are entitled to your opinion for sure obviously.








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Shattenkirk NYR
Posted 2017-07-04 6:50 PM (#677589 - in reply to #677550)
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But I will say this, if this is it and we do not add a top 9 C/forward, then yes I will agree this isn't enough if these are our forwards. For now I think it was simply a depth/4th line move, and we can do much worse than a 10 or so goal 30 or so point guy who can win face-offs for one mill.


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Posted 2017-07-04 7:17 PM (#677592 - in reply to #677550)
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I am not telling you to do anything. Not sure the hostility is needed either. My only point is let's let Gorton finish this off hopefully in a good way. Then we can judge. Seems a bit excessive to get upset over a depth signing of a 4th line C for one mill. To each their own.


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Posted 2017-07-04 7:19 PM (#677593 - in reply to #677588)
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Shattenkirk NYR - 2017-07-04 5:48 PM

Not wrong at all. Opinions are not wrong or right, they are opinions not facts. I am simply trying to say relax guys it is a 4th line C. Seems excessive to say terrible signing, head scratcher, nightmare continues over the signing of a 4th line C to a one-year deal. A 4th line C better than D. Moore and in the same ballpark as B. Boyle, who were two of our 4th line C's prior to Lindberg. And for one mill it isn't a bad move, frankly it is a whatever move I think.

I am only saying let's stay calm and give Gorton a chance to finish this off in a good fashion hopefully. Not saying your opinion is right or wrong. You are entitled to your opinion for sure obviously.











The fact you are deciding the content of posts and recommending what posters can post is rather hilarious. Here's a novel thought if you have something to post about midget sized, pansy never played fourth line hockey in his life fire away. If you feel the need to tell me what to do go pound sand.
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Posted 2017-07-04 7:26 PM (#677594 - in reply to #677550)
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No point in debating a depth signing with you. The anger is there and no good comes from that. Let's hope Gorton does his job and finishes off the team with another forward. I have full faith in the guy. If it turns out to be a depth/4th line C signing, I give Gorton credit for doing it. Only time will tell, but I think that is the case.







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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-04 7:31 PM (#677595 - in reply to #677550)
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Whatever happened to Rangers 2017?
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Rranger
Posted 2017-07-04 7:32 PM (#677596 - in reply to #677594)
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Shattenkirk NYR - 2017-07-04 6:26 PM

No point in debating a depth signing with you. The anger is there and no good comes from that. Let's hope Gorton does his job and finishes off the team with another forward. I have full faith in the guy. If it turns out to be a depth/4th line C signing, I give Gorton credit for doing it. Only time will tell, but I think that is the case.










Again on your deaf ears I don't.
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Posted 2017-07-04 7:35 PM (#677597 - in reply to #677550)
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And that is fair. If you think this is more than a depth/4th line C signing, yeah I agree with you. If the vision is this guy plays in the top 9 to start the season, yeah I have an issue with that and would be bothered by it for sure. I don't think that is the case, and all I have read thus far says C to replace Lindberg. We'll see though.


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Posted 2017-07-04 7:39 PM (#677598 - in reply to #677550)
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It's a mistake if he is on any New York Ranger line IMO, I've seen him play. He's a lightweight. Opponents in our conference are licking their chops looking to play against him as a fourth line Center.
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Posted 2017-07-04 7:51 PM (#677599 - in reply to #677594)
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Shattenkirk NYR - 2017-07-04 9:26 PM

No point in debating a depth signing with you. The anger is there and no good comes from that. Let's hope Gorton does his job and finishes off the team with another forward. I have full faith in the guy. If it turns out to be a depth/4th line C signing, I give Gorton credit for doing it. Only time will tell, but I think that is the case.





If he is the 4th line center because we moved Miller to 3rd line center and weakened our wingers it is no good either.I'm so tired of this coach and every signing that we make has to be in his mold of good skating no hitting player.Why can't this team have 3 or 4 forwards that are legit physical players.Right now the 3 physical forwards we have are Miller,Zuccarello,and Fast.That's it.Kreider no longer counts because he's become neutered more and more each year under this coach.He might throw a good check once every four games now.Smith is the only defenseman with a physical component to his game.Maybe Deangelo will have some,played with some in the minors,let's see what happens when he plays up here with the big boys.If you drink the Ranger Koolaid you will feel that physical play doesn't win games anymore,which is not the case.The penguins,a team that pushed us around last year,now have both Reaves and Sestito in their lineup because they felt they were pushed around.That's the two time Stanley Cup champs that feel that way,they might know what they are talking about.
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Posted 2017-07-04 7:56 PM (#677600 - in reply to #677550)
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If the Rangers add a good solid top 9 C/winger I will be fine with having Desharnais as my 4th line C/depth forward. If we add no one and expect him to be in the top 9 mix, then yeah I have a big issue with Gorton thinking that is good enough.

If he plays the role I think he will, I think it is fine and I am not going to be bothered by us signing him in that 4th line mix. Depth is good, and with Fast and Desh and maybe Grabner slides down and maybe Andersson is in that mix also, I like that depth.


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