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Fish
Posted 2017-07-13 12:16 PM (#677965)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 12:30 PM (#677967 - in reply to #677965)
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Interesting decision...Let him play in Sweden 1 more year?...then bring him over to play another year in albatross Hartford? not sure... I highly doubt bringing him to the Varsity as an 18 year old is the right move
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Posted 2017-07-13 12:34 PM (#677970 - in reply to #677965)
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Suggests to me that they think he has a shot at making the roster
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 12:37 PM (#677971 - in reply to #677965)
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Lol what "they" think sometimes scares me...man 18 is young... I hope its not just to plug him at center for the sake of replacing Stepan and Oscar
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Posted 2017-07-13 12:38 PM (#677972 - in reply to #677965)
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A lot of people thought so draft day, then they got a look at him

Zibanejad
Hayes
Deshernais
Andersson

With Miller as a spare?

Trade for your missing piece center at the deadline?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 12:41 PM (#677973 - in reply to #677965)
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I have zero faith in NYR management historically with talent analysis ....make a trade yes Bozak, JVR, Duchene maybe
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Posted 2017-07-13 12:41 PM (#677974 - in reply to #677965)
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and honestly...that is a horrible down the middle lineup
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Posted 2017-07-13 2:35 PM (#677977 - in reply to #677974)
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Mikey Red - 2017-07-13 11:41 AM

and honestly...that is a horrible down the middle lineup




It has the possibility of being really bad. Much more so than being really good.
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Posted 2017-07-13 2:42 PM (#677978 - in reply to #677973)
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Mikey Red - 2017-07-13 12:41 PM

I have zero faith in NYR management historically with talent analysis ....make a trade yes Bozak, JVR, Duchene maybe


Then you would be completely clueless. Try doing some research. Go back over the past 8 years and see each year how many young players the Rangers have developed. That without high picks many of those years and a team averaging about 100 points. You are living in the last 1990's and early 2000's dude. Wake up.

Rangers are an elite team finding and developing talent. They never ruin prospects rushing them like the dumbass Islanders and Devils do. Also, if you think that team is awful down the middle, stop watching hockey. You are living in a dream world where you want this to be a team that tanks seasons for 2 to 5 years and puts McDavid and Draisaitl down the middle. The Rangers didn't lose the cup or in any playoff year because of the offense of their centers. They lost because their wings who were supposed to score goals didn't do crap. The lost because of awful faceoffs and defensive play with their centers. They lost because of stupid coaching decisions. Or a few years because they were all banged up by the later rounds. Mostly they lost in the playoffs because our PP sucks, still sucks and our PP coach is a moron.

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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2017-07-13 2:44 PM (#677979 - in reply to #677965)
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The centers on this team are not a problem. Especially if Andersson can make the jump.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 3:22 PM (#677980 - in reply to #677978)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-13 2:42 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-07-13 12:41 PM

I have zero faith in NYR management historically with talent analysis ....make a trade yes Bozak, JVR, Duchene maybe


Then you would be completely clueless. Try doing some research. Go back over the past 8 years and see each year how many young players the Rangers have developed. That without high picks many of those years and a team averaging about 100 points. You are living in the last 1990's and early 2000's dude. Wake up.

Rangers are an elite team finding and developing talent. They never ruin prospects rushing them like the dumbass Islanders and Devils do. Also, if you think that team is awful down the middle, stop watching hockey. You are living in a dream world where you want this to be a team that tanks seasons for 2 to 5 years and puts McDavid and Draisaitl down the middle. The Rangers didn't lose the cup or in any playoff year because of the offense of their centers. They lost because their wings who were supposed to score goals didn't do crap. The lost because of awful faceoffs and defensive play with their centers. They lost because of stupid coaching decisions. Or a few years because they were all banged up by the later rounds. Mostly they lost in the playoffs because our PP sucks, still sucks and our PP coach is a moron.

Clueless? Mclrath? Wings farm team backup defenseman? Here are all of NYR 1st picks since 2000

Filip Novak fail
Dan Blackburn hurt
Lee Felardeau fail
Hugh Jessiman epic fail
Al Montoya fail
Marc Staal success
Bobby Sanguinetti fail
Alexei Cherapanov died
Michael Del Zotto fail
Chris Kreider success
Dylan Mclrath epic fail
J.T. Miller success
Brady Skjei success
Adam Tamballini not here yet
Brandon Halverson not here yet
Ryan Gropp not here yet
Sean Day not here yet
Lias Anderson not here yet


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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 3:23 PM (#677981 - in reply to #677979)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-13 2:44 PM

The centers on this team are not a problem. Especially if Andersson can make the jump.

On what Planet do you get this indication?
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Posted 2017-07-13 3:51 PM (#677982 - in reply to #677967)
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Mikey Red - 2017-07-13 2:30 PM

Interesting decision...Let him play in Sweden 1 more year?...then bring him over to play another year in albatross Hartford? not sure... I highly doubt bringing him to the Varsity as an 18 year old is the right move


I think that's why they drafted him over some that were more highly rated - to play right away. He is more "NHL ready" or at least that was what ever expert said at the draft. They drafted for value now over value long term.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 3:59 PM (#677983 - in reply to #677965)
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For our sakes I hope he is legit
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robstones
Posted 2017-07-13 5:52 PM (#677984 - in reply to #677965)
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Mikey Red, you left out

Callahan
Anisimov
Stepan
Dubinsky
Hagelin
Lundqvist
Buchnevich
Duclair
Jesper Fast
Korpikoski
Fedor Tyutin
Dom Moore

All could be called mostly successful

Montoya has turned in to a solid backup, too.... so not much of a fail

In other words The Rangers have a pretty good success rate in the draft. A consistent 2, 3, sometimes 4 picks a year turn nhlers

Oh yeah...
Ryan Graves not here yet
Igor Shestyorkin not here yet (top goalie prospect... the next king)

There's others in the system not mentioned that could pan out, too. Chytil.... the list goes on...

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 6:01 PM (#677985 - in reply to #677965)
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Rob..as I stated...those were NYR 1st pick in each draft...the money pick...the pick thats supposed be a foundational player...Montoya was a 1st rd pick #6 overall and you praising him for being a good backup? Fail...And the guys that are not here are unknowns so you cant say success or fail yet...that list you have up there is nothing to brag about
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 6:05 PM (#677986 - in reply to #677965)
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I would be shocked if NYR was NOT in the bottom 5 of the NHL in draft success in the last 25 years
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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 6:56 PM (#677987 - in reply to #677965)
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Rob also...whats up with Tambellini? that was your guy 2 season ago
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Posted 2017-07-13 7:13 PM (#677988 - in reply to #677965)
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He wants to make the team & has a bit of an attitude, & cockiness, I like it. I am not comparing, & he is no Laine, but reminds a bit of Laine.
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Posted 2017-07-13 7:14 PM (#677989 - in reply to #677965)
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Andersson is looking more and more like he's going to be here to start the season unless he has a poor camp. And listening to and watching him he's a kid that looks like his head is on straight, yet extremely confident. He's been around pro hockey players all his life and won't be in awe of anyone, Henrek Lundqvist excepted. I just hope he becomes a good top two centre, down the road.
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Posted 2017-07-13 7:22 PM (#677990 - in reply to #677965)
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Yes that all sounds great and we all hope thats the case.....But 19 is crazy young to come to a new Country and start a new life....also Bobby Sanguinetti was the next Brian Leetch "wait til you see this kid" was the talk of him
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Posted 2017-07-13 7:50 PM (#677991 - in reply to #677990)
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Mikey Red - 2017-07-13 6:22 PM

Yes that all sounds great and we all hope thats the case.....But 19 is crazy young to come to a new Country and start a new life....also Bobby Sanguinetti was the next Brian Leetch "wait til you see this kid" was the talk of him





Easy big boy. Let's just say I'm hoping. You can see the passion and confidence in this guy. Hopefully it carries into the NHL. If I'm him I'm looking at the three centre's ahead of him and saying "I don't have to stop or be happy with only becoming the fourth centre".

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-07-13 7:59 PM (#677992 - in reply to #677965)
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Lol Lol yep...you know us NYR fans...pessimist by nature and always let down
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Posted 2017-07-14 6:36 AM (#677994 - in reply to #677978)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2017-07-13 2:42 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-07-13 12:41 PM

I have zero faith in NYR management historically with talent analysis ....make a trade yes Bozak, JVR, Duchene maybe


Then you would be completely clueless. Try doing some research. Go back over the past 8 years and see each year how many young players the Rangers have developed. That without high picks many of those years and a team averaging about 100 points. You are living in the last 1990's and early 2000's dude. Wake up.

Rangers are an elite team finding and developing talent. They never ruin prospects rushing them like the dumbass Islanders and Devils do. Also, if you think that team is awful down the middle, stop watching hockey. You are living in a dream world where you want this to be a team that tanks seasons for 2 to 5 years and puts McDavid and Draisaitl down the middle. The Rangers didn't lose the cup or in any playoff year because of the offense of their centers. They lost because their wings who were supposed to score goals didn't do crap. The lost because of awful faceoffs and defensive play with their centers. They lost because of stupid coaching decisions. Or a few years because they were all banged up by the later rounds. Mostly they lost in the playoffs because our PP sucks, still sucks and our PP coach is a moron.


Centers are everything in this league. Without a high-end center you're basically playing for 2nd place. Go ahead and give me the last Cup winner that didn't have an elite center. Next on the list is stud defenseman. Wingers aren't that important by comparison.

And being good on the PP doesn't mean much. It doesn't correlate to winning in the playoffs. Being able to kill penalties does, but not scoring on them. How many Cups do the Caps and their elite PP have?
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2017-07-14 2:45 PM (#677996 - in reply to #677965)
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Correct, we are talking about 18/19 year olds, you just never know. Again, Robitallie 9th rnd, Stefan #1 overall.
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Posted 2017-08-03 7:11 AM (#678649 - in reply to #677965)
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Andersson wears the C for Team Sweden in the WJSS tournement, and scored their only two goals in the 3-2 loss against Team USA yesterday.

NHL network is airing these games, I watched most of the Sweden USA game last night. Both Andersson and Gettinger looked good

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Posted 2017-08-03 8:00 AM (#678650 - in reply to #677965)
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Lias Andersson scores for Sweden against Team USA
5:30PM: Andersson scored his second goal of the game for Sweden and Button praised his hockey sense and ability to be in the right place at the right time.
4:50PM: Rangers first round pick Lias Andersson scored in the first period of today's game against Team USA at the World Juniors Summer Showcase.

check out the link with video of the goal
https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/lias-andersson-scores-for-sweden-aga...
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Posted 2017-08-03 8:13 AM (#678651 - in reply to #677965)
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Sweden plays Canada tomorrow @1 in the afternoon and Finland @4 Saturday on NHLnetwork

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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-03 9:09 AM (#678652 - in reply to #678651)
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Remember when everybody was raving about Evgeny Grachev?
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Posted 2017-08-03 10:04 AM (#678653 - in reply to #678652)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-03 11:09 AM

Remember when everybody was raving about Evgeny Grachev?


Last 4 years - 4 different teams in KHL. Goals scored - 6,2,5.5
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Posted 2017-08-03 10:06 AM (#678654 - in reply to #678653)
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NTHockey - 2017-08-03 10:04 AM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-03 11:09 AM

Remember when everybody was raving about Evgeny Grachev?


Last 4 years - 4 different teams in KHL. Goals scored - 6,2,5.5

Lol
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Posted 2017-08-03 12:09 PM (#678655 - in reply to #678652)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-03 11:09 AM

Remember when everybody was raving about Evgeny Grachev?


Is there a coorelation you're trying to make?
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Posted 2017-08-03 12:20 PM (#678656 - in reply to #678655)
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robstones - 2017-08-03 12:09 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-03 11:09 AM

Remember when everybody was raving about Evgeny Grachev?


Is there a coorelation you're trying to make?

Yeah...some of us here hype the hell out of prospects before they ever make it to Garden ice
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Posted 2017-08-03 1:02 PM (#678657 - in reply to #678656)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-03 2:20 PM

robstones - 2017-08-03 12:09 PM

Mikey Red - 2017-08-03 11:09 AM

Remember when everybody was raving about Evgeny Grachev?


Is there a coorelation you're trying to make?

Yeah...some of us here hype the hell out of prospects before they ever make it to Garden ice


Maybe.... We say what we hear and see, I think. Grachev was looking good. But he was always seen as a project. There was promise, but he always had to work on consistency, and breaking out of juniors playing with men.... He came to Hartford and put up some points, but he was inconsistent...

Andersson (and you can call it hype) but he was drafted as a guy who has little flaws. One of the few possible NHL ready picks. He is much less of a project pick. This isn't boom or bust. This seems like more of a question of will he make it to the NHL this year, not will he make it at all. It's a question of will he turn into a 4th liner, or will he be a top 6 guy?

Because of that, he was given the C on this world juniors class for Sweden. His solid two way game is said to be his best attribute, but he also scored their only 2 goals against Team USA.... idk if this is hype, but those are the facts

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Posted 2017-08-03 1:19 PM (#678658 - in reply to #677965)
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People were raving about Grachev....Where are Tamballini and Graves? Yes Lias has goods things going for him at the junior level...but thats not the NHL
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