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Mikey Red
Posted 2017-08-25 8:52 PM (#679492 - in reply to #679491)
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Can we send AV to Corpus Christi?


I hear the Anchorage Aleuts need someone.

he he he.... Ill pay for the car service


Don't waste your money...I'm sure we can get Scott Gomez to spring for the transportation.

lol good point
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Posted 2017-08-26 6:02 AM (#679494 - in reply to #679487)
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Mikey Red - 2017-08-25 10:19 PM

Can we send AV to Corpus Christi?


Had no idea what this and the "Harvey is coming" post meant until this morning.
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Posted 2017-08-27 5:51 AM (#679523 - in reply to #679375)
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You guys had me worried that there were actually 2 pages of posts on Bobby Farnham.
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Posted 2017-08-27 6:02 AM (#679524 - in reply to #679375)
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Not that all that Tan-Tan chatter was any better, concust.
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Posted 2017-08-30 6:19 AM (#679635 - in reply to #679434)
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robstones - 2017-08-24 4:51 PM

Glass was a pansy up until last season, and one could argue he rubbed off a little.

Chewbacca didn't sign Farnham... Gorton did. Whether AV wants his players to play more physical, and aggitate, it seems Gorton saw Farnham as a type of guy worth grabbing....

So, why? What does he have to add to this team? If they see his style of play as desirable, then it seems logical that they wish the guys on the current roster played with more of an edge.

That's my take on it, anyway. He seems like Sean Avery



Pansy? That statement is hilarious.
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Posted 2017-08-30 10:19 AM (#679650 - in reply to #679635)
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robstones - 2017-08-24 4:51 PM

Glass was a pansy up until last season, and one could argue he rubbed off a little.

Chewbacca didn't sign Farnham... Gorton did. Whether AV wants his players to play more physical, and aggitate, it seems Gorton saw Farnham as a type of guy worth grabbing....

So, why? What does he have to add to this team? If they see his style of play as desirable, then it seems logical that they wish the guys on the current roster played with more of an edge.

That's my take on it, anyway. He seems like Sean Avery



Pansy? That statement is hilarious.


It's meant to be....

I love how all of the sudden everyone is sticking up for Tanner Glass. THAT is hilarious
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Mjolnir
Posted 2017-08-30 10:42 AM (#679651 - in reply to #679635)
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naf regnar - 2017-08-30 8:19 AM

Pansy? That statement is hilarious.


Get used to it -- There's a lot of that going on around here.

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Posted 2017-08-30 12:32 PM (#679667 - in reply to #679650)
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robstones - 2017-08-24 4:51 PM

Glass was a pansy up until last season, and one could argue he rubbed off a little.

Chewbacca didn't sign Farnham... Gorton did. Whether AV wants his players to play more physical, and aggitate, it seems Gorton saw Farnham as a type of guy worth grabbing....

So, why? What does he have to add to this team? If they see his style of play as desirable, then it seems logical that they wish the guys on the current roster played with more of an edge.

That's my take on it, anyway. He seems like Sean Avery



Pansy? That statement is hilarious.


It's meant to be....

I love how all of the sudden everyone is sticking up for Tanner Glass. THAT is hilarious


Actually, most fans DON'T stick up for #15... They run him into the ground. I'm one that sees the positive qualities he brings to the Rangers line-up. Hardly an elite player - not in the mold of so many others on the NYR - but one who gives it all on every shift, in a gritty fashion. Too bad it doesn't rub off on, for example, #20, & a few others.






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Posted 2017-08-30 12:48 PM (#679669 - in reply to #679667)
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^This^. Glass was no superstar,but he had as much heart as anyone on the team.He also brought something to the table that no other forward brought game after game.Since Chewbacca has been here,all the Rangers have done is add more and more finesse at the expense of gritty,physical play.maybe this year Hayes will surpass the whopping 40 checks he threw last year.


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Posted 2017-08-30 1:44 PM (#679673 - in reply to #679375)
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Glass didn't "give it his all every shift" until last year.... the last year of his contract, and having started the year in the minors.

We thought he was done... we all prayed he was done.

But he played like his job was on the line every shift when called up, and no doubt it was good to see.... but don't make like that's how it always was with him because it wasn't. It took him being buried in the minors.

The guy sucked. Pansy is a bit much, but only a bit. No one on the other team is scared of Tanner Glass. He's not an aggitator. He's not an enforcer. And he's not a hitting machine.

Glass averaged 1.12 hits per game.... if we're going to compare him to Kreider... Kreids averaged 1.76 hits per game.... most among Rangers forwards...

It would be nicer to have players who average closer to 2... Farnham is closer to 2.... Ovechkin is more like 2.3
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Posted 2017-08-30 3:48 PM (#679680 - in reply to #679375)
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Please don't start with the "hits" stat or else you'll make me start to like "faceoff wins"

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Posted 2017-08-30 4:40 PM (#679686 - in reply to #679680)
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concust - 2017-08-30 5:48 PM

Please don't start with the "hits" stat or else you'll make me start to like "faceoff wins"



They're important stats! Both of them....

Trying to tell me Ovechkin's physical element isn't an important aspect of his game? The fact that he leads his team in hits every year?

Trying to tell me that Hayes, Miller, Vesey, Kreider, Nash, Zibanejad.... that they all wouldn't be more effective players of they hit more? If they were more physical? Isn't that what we've all been calling for? Isn't that the big problem everyone has with AV and his "passive system?"

Trying to tell me that Hayes wasn't a more effective player last year when he won more faceoffs than the year prior? Come on.....

JT Miller is playing his best when he is physically engaged.

My point is Farnham can play like a bull in a china shop.... This team needs a little bit of that.

Will hos physicality rub off on others like Hayes? I doubt it.... but it's good to see someone like that on the radar imo.

I love the Sean Avery types....
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Posted 2017-08-30 5:22 PM (#679690 - in reply to #679686)
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Good luck to thinking that Chewbacca will for 1 second tolerate Farnham's undisciplined style.He will make him skate ice Capades if he wants any chance to see the ice on this team.
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Posted 2017-08-30 6:07 PM (#679694 - in reply to #679375)
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Dont miss Avery and sure as hell wont miss "Hands of" Glass. If you want a feisty guy on the roster, get one that will contribute as well
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Posted 2017-08-30 6:27 PM (#679696 - in reply to #679694)
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jobat317 - 2017-08-30 8:07 PM

Dont miss Avery and sure as hell wont miss "Hands of" Glass. If you want a feisty guy on the roster, get one that will contribute as well
We had one.....Brandon Prust.
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Posted 2017-08-30 6:34 PM (#679697 - in reply to #679375)
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I don't want Avery or Prust or Glass or Farnham.... I want our players with size to use it. I want fiesty to be something that rubs off on the team....

Of those 4... Avery, Prust, Farnham, and Glass..... Glass is the least "fiesty"
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Posted 2017-08-30 7:06 PM (#679699 - in reply to #679697)
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Then good luck getting Mr 40 checks last year Hayes and Mr soft melon Nash to use their size properly.Good luck also to getting Kreider to hit like he did before Chewie became coach.The coach doesn't want them playing that way.You want physical play then hope for Chewie to be fired.
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Posted 2017-08-30 7:21 PM (#679700 - in reply to #679699)
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Mcphee - 2017-08-30 9:06 PM

Then good luck getting Mr 40 checks last year Hayes and Mr soft melon Nash to use their size properly.Good luck also to getting Kreider to hit like he did before Chewie became coach.The coach doesn't want them playing that way.You want physical play then hope for Chewie to be fired.


Sorry -- can't blame "Kreider's Krash" on AV...he was neutered by the NHL's disciplinary group.

Nash was a wuss before we got him.

Don't know what to say about Hayes (I think I'm gonna have to change the name on my #13 jersey..)

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Posted 2017-08-30 7:27 PM (#679701 - in reply to #679700)
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Then good luck getting Mr 40 checks last year Hayes and Mr soft melon Nash to use their size properly.Good luck also to getting Kreider to hit like he did before Chewie became coach.The coach doesn't want them playing that way.You want physical play then hope for Chewie to be fired.


Sorry -- can't blame "Kreider's Krash" on AV...he was neutered by the NHL's disciplinary group.

Nash was a wuss before we got him.

Don't know what to say about Hayes (I think I'm gonna have to change the name on my #13 jersey..)

Bob Brooke?
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Posted 2017-08-30 7:32 PM (#679703 - in reply to #679700)
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Then good luck getting Mr 40 checks last year Hayes and Mr soft melon Nash to use their size properly.Good luck also to getting Kreider to hit like he did before Chewie became coach.The coach doesn't want them playing that way.You want physical play then hope for Chewie to be fired.


Sorry -- can't blame "Kreider's Krash" on AV...he was neutered by the NHL's disciplinary group.

Nash was a wuss before we got him.

Don't know what to say about Hayes (I think I'm gonna have to change the name on my #13 jersey..)

then Kreider is a wuss too.I think if he was encouraged to hit by his coach he might go back to the way he was.Chewie doesn't seem to have any desire to have his forwards finish checks.That is the problem with this team.If you don't want to carry an enforcer then your big guys better be physical,and willing to drop the gloves when necessary.
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Posted 2017-08-30 7:45 PM (#679704 - in reply to #679673)
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robstones - 2017-08-30 3:44 PM

Glass didn't "give it his all every shift" until last year.... the last year of his contract, and having started the year in the minors.

We thought he was done... we all prayed he was done.

But he played like his job was on the line every shift when called up, and no doubt it was good to see.... but don't make like that's how it always was with him because it wasn't. It took him being buried in the minors.

The guy sucked. Pansy is a bit much, but only a bit. No one on the other team is scared of Tanner Glass. He's not an aggitator. He's not an enforcer. And he's not a hitting machine.

Glass averaged 1.12 hits per game.... if we're going to compare him to Kreider... Kreids averaged 1.76 hits per game.... most among Rangers forwards...

It would be nicer to have players who average closer to 2... Farnham is closer to 2.... Ovechkin is more like 2.3


not sure where you got Glass averaged 1,12 hits per game.I just looked up last years stats and he had 37 hits in 11 games or 3 less hits in 65 less games than Kevin hayes produced.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/NYR/2017.html
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Posted 2017-08-30 8:23 PM (#679706 - in reply to #679375)
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All I will say is I don't have a problem with a Tanner Glass on your team especially with the lack of grit by most of the other forwards. Ideally you'd like a guy that can play and score and be solid defensively. But good luck finding them they are almost as rare as a 40 goal scorer. I think the geniuses have figured they don't need Glass with Smith here, which is stupid. Better a fourth line forward in the box with off setting 5 minute majors than one of your D.
I don't know how many times I've seen the Rangers scrambling mid season looking for some toughness after getting sand kicked in their faces, but here we go again. Ryan Reaves and Sestito from Pittsburgh are going to have a field day.
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Posted 2017-08-30 10:21 PM (#679708 - in reply to #679375)
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Hartnett: Farewell And Adieu To Tanner Glass, A Guy Who Proved His Worth
Rangers Fans Took Forever To Warm Up To Gritty Fourth-Liner, But They Did Once He Earned Their Respect


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/08/30/new-york-rangers-tanner-glas...
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Posted 2017-08-30 10:33 PM (#679709 - in reply to #679703)
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Then good luck getting Mr 40 checks last year Hayes and Mr soft melon Nash to use their size properly.Good luck also to getting Kreider to hit like he did before Chewie became coach.The coach doesn't want them playing that way.You want physical play then hope for Chewie to be fired.


Sorry -- can't blame "Kreider's Krash" on AV...he was neutered by the NHL's disciplinary group.

Nash was a wuss before we got him.

Don't know what to say about Hayes (I think I'm gonna have to change the name on my #13 jersey..)

then Kreider is a wuss too.I think if he was encouraged to hit by his coach he might go back to the way he was.Chewie doesn't seem to have any desire to have his forwards finish checks.That is the problem with this team.If you don't want to carry an enforcer then your big guys better be physical,and willing to drop the gloves when necessary.

I wouldn't go that far --confused would be a better word....while the Disc Group played a huge part, the remainder definitely falls on the shoulders of Rangers management. He'd be going great guns and then he'd be whistled for a borderline infraction, which led to him pulling up when he'd got to hit an opponent. The Price nonsense was teh nail in the coffin. I said back then what they needed to do was work with him on the nuances of the rules...
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Posted 2017-08-30 10:34 PM (#679710 - in reply to #679708)
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naf regnar - 2017-08-31 12:21 AM

Hartnett: Farewell And Adieu To Tanner Glass, A Guy Who Proved His Worth
Rangers Fans Took Forever To Warm Up To Gritty Fourth-Liner, But They Did Once He Earned Their Respect


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/08/30/new-york-rangers-tanner-glas...


Never earned mine....and I'm glad he's gone.
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Posted 2017-08-31 6:06 AM (#679716 - in reply to #679709)
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I wouldn't go that far --confused would be a better word....while the Disc Group played a huge part, the remainder definitely falls on the shoulders of Rangers management. He'd be going great guns and then he'd be whistled for a borderline infraction, which led to him pulling up when he'd got to hit an opponent. The Price nonsense was teh nail in the coffin. I said back then what they needed to do was work with him on the nuances of the rules...

I agree and like I said it falls on the coach.He and his style of play encourage the players not to hit.They could go over things with Kreider pertaining to hitting rules.The coach could also say to him if he gets whistled for a borderline penalty that it's not the end of the world and I don't think it was a bad hit.
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Posted 2017-08-31 6:19 AM (#679717 - in reply to #679704)
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Glass didn't "give it his all every shift" until last year.... the last year of his contract, and having started the year in the minors.

We thought he was done... we all prayed he was done.

But he played like his job was on the line every shift when called up, and no doubt it was good to see.... but don't make like that's how it always was with him because it wasn't. It took him being buried in the minors.

The guy sucked. Pansy is a bit much, but only a bit. No one on the other team is scared of Tanner Glass. He's not an aggitator. He's not an enforcer. And he's not a hitting machine.

Glass averaged 1.12 hits per game.... if we're going to compare him to Kreider... Kreids averaged 1.76 hits per game.... most among Rangers forwards...

It would be nicer to have players who average closer to 2... Farnham is closer to 2.... Ovechkin is more like 2.3


not sure where you got Glass averaged 1,12 hits per game.I just looked up last years stats and he had 37 hits in 11 games or 3 less hits in 65 less games than Kevin hayes produced.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/NYR/2017.html


Oh damn.... know what I did, I used his age.... 33... So it was 37 hits in 33 games was the math I did. Yeah that's a lot better than I thought, huh...
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Posted 2017-08-31 6:25 AM (#679718 - in reply to #679699)
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Mcphee - 2017-08-30 9:06 PM

Then good luck getting Mr 40 checks last year Hayes and Mr soft melon Nash to use their size properly.Good luck also to getting Kreider to hit like he did before Chewie became coach.The coach doesn't want them playing that way.You want physical play then hope for Chewie to be fired.


Well exactly...

Hayes has always had the criticism that he doesn't use his size enough. Nash has always been passive.

But it would be nice to have someone behind the bench who urged his players to finish their checks, and make the other team pay a price to touch the puck.

McDonagh is so fast and so strong.... he should be lighting guys up on the regular
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Posted 2017-08-31 6:46 AM (#679719 - in reply to #679686)
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Please don't start with the "hits" stat or else you'll make me start to like "faceoff wins"



They're important stats! Both of them....



Physicality is important. Faceoff wins are important. How they get and keep the stats however, is so wildly inconsistent that they're effectively useless for drawing conclusions from. The Islanders for example are well known to inflate the home team's hit stat when they play at home. Who keeps the stats? Home ice officials. If you have 30 different home ice officials who likely have some level of bias, keeping a stat that's effectively useless, how can you have any objectivity? What constitutes a "hit"? It's entirely subjective and then you multiply that by 30. (Now 31).

Physicality is important. The stat is useless.
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Posted 2017-08-31 6:49 AM (#679720 - in reply to #679375)
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I'd really rather not have McDonagh be lighting people up. Hitting is really entertaining but it puts you at great risk for being out of position especially against skilled forwards. Remember how Kasparaitis played? He was a wrecking ball and flew all over the ice. He was also constantly out of position and a terrible regular defenseman because of it.

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Posted 2017-08-31 7:01 AM (#679721 - in reply to #679719)
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concust - 2017-08-30 5:48 PM

Please don't start with the "hits" stat or else you'll make me start to like "faceoff wins"



They're important stats! Both of them....



Physicality is important. Faceoff wins are important. How they get and keep the stats however, is so wildly inconsistent that they're effectively useless for drawing conclusions from. The Islanders for example are well known to inflate the home team's hit stat when they play at home. Who keeps the stats? Home ice officials. If you have 30 different home ice officials who likely have some level of bias, keeping a stat that's effectively useless, how can you have any objectivity? What constitutes a "hit"? It's entirely subjective and then you multiply that by 30. (Now 31).



Physicality is important. The stat is useless.





I believe the flyers inflate their stats at home too...And they pipe in crowd noise...I hate that place!
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Posted 2017-08-31 7:03 AM (#679723 - in reply to #679375)
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I wouldn't be surprised at all - got to keep that "bullies" reputation up.
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Posted 2017-08-31 7:08 AM (#679724 - in reply to #679720)
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concust - 2017-08-31 8:49 AM

I'd really rather not have McDonagh be lighting people up. Hitting is really entertaining but it puts you at great risk for being out of position especially against skilled forwards. Remember how Kasparaitis played? He was a wrecking ball and flew all over the ice. He was also constantly out of position and a terrible regular defenseman because of it.



I understand what you are saying and getting taken out of position isn't good,but how many times do you see players standing in or just outside the Rangers crease digging away at the puck without a finger being placed on them.Put somebody on their ass once in awhile when that is happening.
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Posted 2017-08-31 7:11 AM (#679725 - in reply to #679724)
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The Rangers definitely inflate their hit stats at home too.I've had games where the Rangers are getting banged all over the place,I post that on another site and then someone will come back at me with the hits stat that they show between periods.
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Posted 2017-08-31 7:20 AM (#679726 - in reply to #679720)
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concust - 2017-08-31 8:49 AM

I'd really rather not have McDonagh be lighting people up. Hitting is really entertaining but it puts you at great risk for being out of position especially against skilled forwards. Remember how Kasparaitis played? He was a wrecking ball and flew all over the ice. He was also constantly out of position and a terrible regular defenseman because of it.



You don't have to play with wreckless abandon like Kasper in order to put a guy on his ass once in a while.... Clear the front of the net... finish your checks... that's all.

I don't want players to go out of their way to make the hit, but it would be nice if they didn't shy away from it, too....
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