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RANGERNUT
Posted 2018-01-15 12:26 PM (#693059 - in reply to #692394)
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This out today ....
The Rangers, according to Sports Club Stats, only have a 54.4% chance of making the playoffs.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-15 1:24 PM (#693060 - in reply to #692394)
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With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.
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Posted 2018-01-15 1:54 PM (#693061 - in reply to #693057)
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The article is an interesting read until I read this:
"Firing Alain Vigneault appears to be the easiest response to try and turn the Rangers’ season around, but a coaching change is unlikely to make any worthwhile difference. It could very well leave the Rangers in a worse situation, making a change behind the bench is a risky proposition. "

The writer loses all credibility with a couple of sentences.
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Posted 2018-01-15 1:54 PM (#693062 - in reply to #693060)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 12:24 PM

With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.





Buwahaha except. Check out time on ice for defensemen yesterday and one Steven Kampfer had the most ice time.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-15 2:03 PM (#693063 - in reply to #693061)
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x10003q - 2018-01-15 3:54 PM



The article is an interesting read until I read this:
"Firing Alain Vigneault appears to be the easiest response to try and turn the Rangers’ season around, but a coaching change is unlikely to make any worthwhile difference. It could very well leave the Rangers in a worse situation, making a change behind the bench is a risky proposition. "

The writer loses all credibility with a couple of sentences.

Yeah I read that and took notice too...he was too soft in the article...but he didnt say anything that was incorrect

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-15 2:03 PM (#693064 - in reply to #693062)
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Rranger - 2018-01-15 3:54 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 12:24 PM

With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.





Buwahaha except. Check out time on ice for defensemen yesterday and one Steven Kampfer had the most ice time.

Ducking Incredible
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Posted 2018-01-15 4:54 PM (#693087 - in reply to #693064)
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Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 4:03 PM

Rranger - 2018-01-15 3:54 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-01-15 12:24 PM

With Holden and Kampfer as our top pair D and Albert on the top line...I think they are short changing us.





Buwahaha except. Check out time on ice for defensemen yesterday and one Steven Kampfer had the most ice time.

Ducking Incredible
Sam loves Kampfer.The BOOTH runs the Rangers.
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Beezer34
Posted 2018-01-15 9:43 PM (#693102 - in reply to #692394)
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I think given the teams play .. you have to move large contracts.... Nash to ANYONE.. and I would think Hank (I love him) has to go... a Chicago.. or an Edmonton.. teams that could use an upgrade... Chicago has a window with guys like Keith and Hossa getting older.. they would make a move to grab him... Edmonton has young kids and Hank would help them out not that Talbot is bad.. but he is no Hank and they have assets to move.

I would love to see Shattenkirk moved that guys sucks... one dimensional player who sucks 5 on 5... not worth the money...

move those three and the Rangers can turn it around .. next year.

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Posted 2018-01-16 1:45 AM (#693105 - in reply to #692394)
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You're lost dude. They aren't trading Hank. Period. Shattenkirk won't accept a trade anywhere else. He took less money to come here. The only players the could move that they might want to move are Nash, McDonagh, Smith and perhaps Vesey.
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Posted 2018-01-16 1:46 AM (#693106 - in reply to #692394)
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The first thing that needs to be done immediately is Arneil needs to be fired. He's a complete idiot running the PP. It has sucked ever since he got here.
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Posted 2018-01-16 6:40 AM (#693109 - in reply to #693105)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2018-01-16 3:45 AM

You're lost dude. They aren't trading Hank. Period. Shattenkirk won't accept a trade anywhere else. He took less money to come here. The only players the could move that they might want to move are Nash, McDonagh, Smith and perhaps Vesey.


How do you know they wouldn’t trade Henke? If the payback was huge, wouldn’t you? It’s a business. Henke’s number will be hanging from the rafters one day regardless.

Sh!tenkirk has a limited NTC next season. 10 teams. That makes 20 teams you can trade him to, but what could you possibly get back for overpaid garbage except for someone else’s overpaid garbage?



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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-01-16 7:50 AM (#693112 - in reply to #692394)
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Sell Sell Sell....Its over...We are not winning the SC this year....Time to re tool
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Posted 2018-01-16 8:23 AM (#693114 - in reply to #693109)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-01-16 8:40 AM

itsmcilrathtime - 2018-01-16 3:45 AM

You're lost dude. They aren't trading Hank. Period. Shattenkirk won't accept a trade anywhere else. He took less money to come here. The only players the could move that they might want to move are Nash, McDonagh, Smith and perhaps Vesey.


How do you know they wouldn’t trade Henke? If the payback was huge, wouldn’t you? It’s a business. Henke’s number will be hanging from the rafters one day regardless.

Sh!tenkirk has a limited NTC next season. 10 teams. That makes 20 teams you can trade him to, but what could you possibly get back for overpaid garbage except for someone else’s overpaid garbage?





Doesn't Henrik have a no movement clause? If so, then it doesn't matter what kind of deal you can get if he decides he's not going.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2018-01-16 8:49 AM (#693118 - in reply to #692394)
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Everybody is tradable gut I feel confident stating there is no way they are trading Hank. They aren't doing anything until they know if Shesterkin or Huska can replace him which they won't for a couple of years
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Posted 2018-01-16 10:13 AM (#693122 - in reply to #692394)
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They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.
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Posted 2018-01-16 10:16 AM (#693124 - in reply to #693122)
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Gravey09 - 2018-01-16 12:13 PM

They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.

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Beezer34
Posted 2018-01-16 7:14 PM (#693300 - in reply to #692394)
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I know that Hank cant be moved anywhere.. but with the D in front of him.. and a hall of fame induction the only future he has in NYC is a cup.. and this team is not a cup winner.. so move him some where he might have a shot... who might need an upgrade... Given his compete level I would think he would welcome the right fit...

Shattenkirk is terrible... move him off the books and teams would go for it. if you again find the right team.

I love the winnipeg deal I could see that for sure .. .get back one of the young goalies back to fill out the spot.
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Posted 2018-01-16 8:28 PM (#693356 - in reply to #693122)
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Gravey09 - 2018-01-16 10:13 AM

They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.


Kinda liking this........
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Posted 2018-01-17 9:24 AM (#693361 - in reply to #693356)
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Rangerjunkie - 2018-01-16 7:28 PM

Gravey09 - 2018-01-16 10:13 AM

They have to capitulate at this point. I agree Hank is not likely going to be traded but would have the conversation to get him to a solid Cup contender. Would not think there would be interest except a contender. How about, off the cuff, Hank and McD to Winnepeg for Trouba and 2 A prospects at or near the NHL . Throw in Mason.... Could be a Win-Win...
Nash would then probably waive his trade constraint move him for a A or highest possible prospect at or near the NHL.
Stall would likely raise his hand to go .... maybe a decent prospect depending on salary retention
Deal Grabner for a decent prospect.
See if Torts would take Zucc for the Wennburg character..
Holden for whatever ..
AV gone ...
House now clean ... if the scouting staff does well on the above prospects maybe we watch some energetic hockey played by young hungry players.


Kinda liking this........





I'm not against the theory, as long as enough marbles are coming back. I'd be more in agreement with the above if it was A list player, a top prospect, and a pick or prospect for Lundqvist minimum. Its either out of the park for the Rangers or why trade the only guy capable of keeping it respectable around here until some coaching changes take place. Anybody is tradeable, but Henrik wouldn't go just anywhere, it would have to be a golden opportunity to win a cup, maybe some of his buddies from home, and somewhere he wants to go. If the Rangers continue their up and down play all the while on a slow overall downward spiral I could see him saying "you know Nashville, Winnipeg, Washington, St. Louis ect. give me a better chance especially with him there. If I'm any one of the mentioned teams or possibly others with less of a chance but potential Toronto ect. I'm all in on checking to see what it would take to get him. He'd be a gamechanger on the right team.
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