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x10003q
Posted 2018-03-06 3:16 PM (#699742 - in reply to #699733)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-06 4:29 PM

Hagelin was a good Ranger....showed up in the big spots ...we paid Stepan 6.5....We lucked into Grabner...Grabner also is on the 4th line alot and not a physical player...Devils already regret trading for him


Hags was a good Ranger, but he is not worth $4 million/year. Stepan was and is a weak#1C. But, on the right team he could be a huge asset as a 2nd line C. Stepan at $6.5 mil is more realistic than hags at $4 mil. There is no way Hags has anywhere the value of Stepan. While Grabner was not a physical player, neither was Hags. They are very similar with a clear edge to Grabner because he can score, unlike Hags. As we all know, secondary scoring is a huge advantage to have.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-06 3:23 PM (#699743 - in reply to #699672)
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Devil fans are killing Grabner right now.....Hagelin was always in the middle of things in the playoffs...Stepan was F'n terrible at that price....I dont mind trading Hagelin...but at least get someone back for him
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-06 3:25 PM (#699744 - in reply to #699672)
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Grabs did great things with us...but he is also a soft perimeter player who goal hangs
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x10003q
Posted 2018-03-06 3:27 PM (#699745 - in reply to #699740)
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Mikey Red - 2018-03-06 5:06 PM

So the draft is crap shoot.....but when we trade 4th line Grabner for 2 unknowns...its a huge win?


Well, the more crap you accumulate, the less likely you are to shoot yourself .

By any measure, the signing of Grabner is a win and not signing hags is a win. It is related due to the timing and style of Hags and Grabner. Hopefully, out of all the picks and prospects they have accumulated, there will be a few guys that can play.

I am optimistic. I also might be clueless.....but I am a die hard Ranger fan.


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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-03-06 3:31 PM (#699746 - in reply to #699745)
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x10003q - 2018-03-06 5:27 PM

Mikey Red - 2018-03-06 5:06 PM

So the draft is crap shoot.....but when we trade 4th line Grabner for 2 unknowns...its a huge win?


Well, the more crap you accumulate, the less likely you are to shoot yourself .

By any measure, the signing of Grabner is a win and not signing hags is a win. It is related due to the timing and style of Hags and Grabner. Hopefully, out of all the picks and prospects they have accumulated, there will be a few guys that can play.

I am optimistic. I also might be clueless.....but I am a die hard Ranger fan.



Yeah I hope so....but moves should intentionally be made to improve the team...not luck into something
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Beezer34
Posted 2018-03-06 6:19 PM (#699791 - in reply to #699672)
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Hags has speed and little finish.. not worth 4 mil.. Stepan is not worth 6.5 but he is a much better player.. and Grabner was a steal for the Rangers.. he has most of his goals as empty netters so getting what they got for a guy they bought a couple years ago.. great... it is current Ranger and general crappy player Shattenkirk that is USELESS.. he is overpaid and cant play D... has moments of offense.. but that is it.. too much money too long and already has to GO... he sucks
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Posted 2018-03-06 9:33 PM (#699932 - in reply to #699672)
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Grabner was a fluke. Teams were not lining up to sign him, you could say the Rangers rolled the dice on him, but their expectations were a penalty killer on the fourth line. He turned into a steal but I would not get locked into any long term expensive contract, which some fool team will give him and watch him revert into the guy in Toronto who did nothing.
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NYR # 1
Posted 2018-03-07 3:00 AM (#699936 - in reply to #699672)
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Couldn't agree more on the long term expensive contract. Grabner is a player who should be in the 2's AAV wise (preferably 2 to 2.5 per tops). Anything more than that is setting yourself up for failure. I would guess some team will give him an AAV in the 3's, and that is too much. We were lucky enough to get him at an AAV of 1.65 for nearly two seasons, that was a great job by Gorton (luck or not).

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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-03-07 5:45 AM (#699939 - in reply to #699791)
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Beezer34 - 2018-03-06 6:19 PM

Hags has speed and little finish.. not worth 4 mil.. Stepan is not worth 6.5 but he is a much better player.. and Grabner was a steal for the Rangers.. he has most of his goals as empty netters so getting what they got for a guy they bought a couple years ago.. great... it is current Ranger and general crappy player Shattenkirk that is USELESS.. he is overpaid and cant play D... has moments of offense.. but that is it.. too much money too long and already has to GO... he sucks



Very little finish. And, if Hags could finish just a little more often that LA series could have gone the other way. How many breakaways & scoring chances did he have with 0 to show for it.
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