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Location: USA | Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 11:48 AM
According to the video on the link... Jim Montgomery from the University of Denver, was offered the job by the Rangers and turned it down even though it was a lot more money.... to coach Dallas which I find interesting. Quinn was not the first choice. Maybe Montgomery didn't want to step into the NY media market, doesn't like the management above or thinks Dallas has better chances and players... maybe personal reasons... why turn down more money?
Also add's a mini rivalry with Dallas, every time we play them now, we'll see what team is better coached.
I remember having to work down in DC and deciding I'd rather quit and make less than work down there...just had an "opportunity" to go work in Chicago full time, and I came to the same conclusion, would rather quit at take a lower paying job here in Colorado |
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He was also born in Montreal.... played there... and was a Flyer. So, he may just flat out not like The Rangers |
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Location: NYC & Charlotte, NC | Fish - 2018-05-22 5:15 PM
Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 11:48 AM
According to the video on the link... Jim Montgomery from the University of Denver, was offered the job by the Rangers and turned it down even though it was a lot more money.... to coach Dallas which I find interesting. Quinn was not the first choice. Maybe Montgomery didn't want to step into the NY media market, doesn't like the management above or thinks Dallas has better chances and players... maybe personal reasons... why turn down more money?
Also add's a mini rivalry with Dallas, every time we play them now, we'll see what team is better coached.
I remember having to work down in DC and deciding I'd rather quit and make less than work down there...just had an "opportunity" to go work in Chicago full time, and I came to the same conclusion, would rather quit at take a lower paying job here in Colorado
LOL... That's why I'm in Charlotte, no more $25k a year property taxes, parking tickets, long subway rides, etc etc etc... Still make NY money though as my company still operates there.
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Location: NYC & Charlotte, NC | concust - 2018-05-22 5:02 PM
rjpny75 - 2018-05-22 3:48 PM
Montgomery wanted to stay in the Midwest, that's why he did not take the Rangers job
Oddly, Dallas isn't the midwest, it's more like if Beverly Hills and El Paso had a bastard son.
Very Funny... your on a roll today!!!
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| Personally I don’t think Vigneault would have won a cup with the In Gretzky’s prime Oilers. As far as Quinn and his team, all I ask is stick up for yourself and your teammates and your goaltender no matter what. Play the body consistently, have a f’n plan in your end, the neutral zone and the offensive zone, there’s only three zones is not that complicated, an let them buck. |
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Location: NYC & Charlotte, NC | Rranger - 2018-05-22 8:12 PM
Personally I don’t think Vigneault would have won a cup with the In Gretzky’s prime Oilers. As far as Quinn and his team, all I ask is stick up for yourself and your teammates and your goaltender no matter what. Play the body consistently, have a f’n plan in your end, the neutral zone and the offensive zone, there’s only three zones is not that complicated, an let them buck.
I'll never understand or ever heard of a Coach not speak to his players one on one... he had zero relationship with them and everything was directed through the assistance... How do players want to play for you or respect you. He used to speak to them in a group and call out players... what the fvvvckkk?
Good riddance.
Miller said he spoke more to Cooper in one day than he did to AV in 3 years.
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Location: NYC & Charlotte, NC | Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM
AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series
...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.
I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.
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Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM
AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series
...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.
I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.
Yeah AV got way too long of a leash |
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Location: New Jersey | Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 8:51 PM
Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM
AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series
...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.
I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.
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Location: NYC & Charlotte, NC | robstones - 2018-05-22 9:17 PM
Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 8:51 PM
Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM
AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series
...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.
I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.
I wonder if he keeps Ruff around
Yes interesting thought... will they hire NHL experienced assistants for him, or let him pick who he wants?
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Location: Lincoln, Nebraska | The Avalanche were definitely grooming him to be their next head coach (or at least a solid "Plan B" if Roy ended up saying no) up until he bolted and took the BU job. He isn't at all inexperienced in pro hockey, so I'm quite hopeful this is going to be a smooth transition to the NHL. I think he'll benefit at the very least from the "dead coach bounce" you tend to see, and in the case where they clearly weren't playing their best under Vigneault, Quinn should be a breath of fresh air. I don't know if they'll be playoff bound or anything but I think they'll at the very least make things interesting.
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| Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 5:36 PM
Rranger - 2018-05-22 8:12 PM
Personally I don’t think Vigneault would have won a cup with the In Gretzky’s prime Oilers. As far as Quinn and his team, all I ask is stick up for yourself and your teammates and your goaltender no matter what. Play the body consistently, have a f’n plan in your end, the neutral zone and the offensive zone, there’s only three zones is not that complicated, an let them buck.
I'll never understand or ever heard of a Coach not speak to his players one on one... he had zero relationship with them and everything was directed through the assistance... How do players want to play for you or respect you. He used to speak to them in a group and call out players... what the fvvvckkk?
Good riddance.
Miller said he spoke more to Cooper in one day than he did to AV in 3 years.
Well after his performance here, I think his stock has sunk. As you mentioned a lot of his unsuccessful methods under scrutiny. There also didn’t appear to be much support for him in the dressing room after he got canned. He maybe sitting back thinking the next good situation like a Edmonton is going to come to him, but he might also be in for a big suprise when he gets possibly passed over. |
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| Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 8:01 PM
robstones - 2018-05-22 9:17 PM
Andy Bathgate - 2018-05-22 8:51 PM
Mikey Red - 2018-05-22 8:44 PM
AV maybe should of been fired after the Pitt series in 2016....but he definitely should of been fired after the Ottawa series
...and then right after the horrible start this season.... Ranger management was in shock!! one more loss he would've been gone.
I would've loved to see this team play for Ruff for 3/4 of the season... his teams played more physical and solid Defensively.
I wonder if he keeps Ruff around
Yes interesting thought... will they hire NHL experienced assistants for him, or let him pick who he wants?
I think he gets his own guys. Having a guy like Ruff who has spent his entire career in the NHL as a player and coach would be the ultimate monkey on Quinn's shoulder. Beyond establishing a working relationship with Ruff, would be the awkward Ruff's been there done that status. For a very long time. I can not fathom a new coach wanting that dynamic in his group. There are plenty of qualified career assistant coaches around to bring on board.
I don't see Ruff hanging around to work for Quinn anyways. I think last season was about picking Vigneaults brain for different ways and means of coaching, as a learning experience under a established NHL coach.. Unfortunately for Ruff 12 minutes into last season he realized Vigneault was a goof and suffered from tunnel vision, and knew only one way to play the game.. . |
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His choices for assistants will be interesting. No more Scott Arniel PP!!!!!!!!
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If Gorton kept Ruff around just so the new coach could fire him, I would have a newfound respect for JG.
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Location: New Jersey | There's no being happy or not happy about a new to the NHL coach, until we see what he can do with the team.
I'm not sure if the money is the only reason for taking the job, just becaise he said it was an offer he cpuldn't turn down....
BU being his dream job.... I guess you stop dreaming after you attain your goals? I can understand wanting to stay.... he's gotten in to a nice comfortable routine.... The past handful of years. He wasn't expecting the phone call. He wasn't asking to leave... so I could understand not pouncing on the opportunity when first presented with it.
I'm sure he talked it over with the family, and the money no doubt was a factor, but... come on....
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Location: NJ | It will be a tough year, not expecting much this coming year. New coach, new style of play, new faces, young players, Hank a year older. The D is still the question, & that's not all of it.
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The D is still the question, & that's not all of it. I have to disagree with this. The problem wasn't the players so much as the lack of any form of defensive structure. |
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| At this point in time the personnel is as much a problem as their guidance from the chewster was. Deangelo absolutely has to turn the corner on his career this season and prove he's a player. If Ogara, Gilmour, and Kampfer are still stumbling about the Rangers are going nowhere and it doesnt matter if Scotty Bowman is coaching. They need a body or two at least, solid capable NHL defensemen. If Hajek and Lindgren don't come in and earn spots, Gorton better have a plan B. |
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Location: AV is gone | Rranger - 2018-05-24 10:02 AM
At this point in time the personnel is as much a problem as their guidance from the chewster was. Deangelo absolutely has to turn the corner on his career this season and prove he's a player. If Ogara, Gilmour, and Kampfer are still stumbling about the Rangers are going nowhere and it doesnt matter if Scotty Bowman is coaching. They need a body or two at least, solid capable NHL defensemen. If Hajek and Lindgren don't come in and earn spots, Gorton better have a plan B.
Yep....Thats why he has to go out and get a Trouba or sign a Luke Schenn...The 3 stooges you mentioned above should never be anything more than an emergency call up...I would try Gilmour at forward...With his speed you try to find a use for him...but its not at the D position in the NHL |
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| Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 7:20 AM
Rranger - 2018-05-24 10:02 AM
At this point in time the personnel is as much a problem as their guidance from the chewster was. Deangelo absolutely has to turn the corner on his career this season and prove he's a player. If Ogara, Gilmour, and Kampfer are still stumbling about the Rangers are going nowhere and it doesnt matter if Scotty Bowman is coaching. They need a body or two at least, solid capable NHL defensemen. If Hajek and Lindgren don't come in and earn spots, Gorton better have a plan B.
Yep....Thats why he has to go out and get a Trouba or sign a Luke Schenn...The 3 stooges you mentioned above should never be anything more than an emergency call up...I would try Gilmour at forward...With his speed you try to find a use for him...but its not at the D position in the NHL
I hold out a bit of hope for Gilmour, but he has to improve physically and defensively. He's had his look, knows where he stands, and should be somewhere working on his shortcomings, and he better understand he has to elevate his game to stick. He has to come to camp and be reliable in his end, and step up the use of his many offensive talents. He's a guy that could fall off a cliff or round into a Torey Krug type. Be interesting to see how he does in camp.
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| Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 7:40 AM
Yeah totally...thats his hill to climb to make it...He is also not "young" either ...we got our first look at him this year and he is already 25
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Location: AV is gone | Rranger - 2018-05-24 12:56 PM
Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 7:40 AM
Yeah totally...thats his hill to climb to make it...He is also not "young" either ...we got our first look at him this year and he is already 25
It is definitely now or never for him.
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| Mikey Red - 2018-05-24 11:57 AM
Gorton Hated AV
SO DID I !! |
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Gorton Hated AV
SO DID I !!
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