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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-06-27 2:51 PM (#707361 - in reply to #706448)
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Posted 2018-06-27 9:11 PM (#707362 - in reply to #706448)
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Ville Meskanen put 3 pucks in the net in a scrimmage... one in the shootout. Gotta keep an eye on him and Lindqvist...

Brooks says we're interested in Grabner....

Most interesting is he reports Rangers could be in on Tavares.... not to take him, but agree to take on salary in order for a team to sign him. We eat part of his salary for a couple seasons, and they give us some draft picks or something.... or we take on a bad contract of theirs.

And in return, we get Tavares off The Island, and out of the division...

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Mjolnir
Posted 2018-06-28 12:59 AM (#707364 - in reply to #707354)
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According to the article, Rangers are looking for character players to mentor younger players. Gorton specifically mentioned Nash, Grabner and Holden. Of the three, I'd take Grabner.


So, let me get this straight: they want a team that plays tough and is tough to play against? So WHY would they want Nash "mentoring" them to play like cream puffs?
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Posted 2018-06-28 7:00 AM (#707365 - in reply to #707364)
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Mjolnir - 2018-06-28 2:59 AM



According to the article, Rangers are looking for character players to mentor younger players. Gorton specifically mentioned Nash, Grabner and Holden. Of the three, I'd take Grabner.


So, let me get this straight: they want a team that plays tough and is tough to play against? So WHY would they want Nash "mentoring" them to play like cream puffs?

Nash is not a soft player..
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Mjolnir
Posted 2018-06-28 7:02 AM (#707367 - in reply to #707365)
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ej17 - 2018-06-28 9:00 AM

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According to the article, Rangers are looking for character players to mentor younger players. Gorton specifically mentioned Nash, Grabner and Holden. Of the three, I'd take Grabner.


So, let me get this straight: they want a team that plays tough and is tough to play against? So WHY would they want Nash "mentoring" them to play like cream puffs?

Nash is not a soft player..
You must be speaking of Riley Nash.
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ej17
Posted 2018-06-28 7:07 AM (#707370 - in reply to #706448)
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Played hard, wasn't the toughest but far from the softest player
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concust
Posted 2018-06-28 7:07 AM (#707371 - in reply to #707362)
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robstones - 2018-06-27 10:11 PM

https://nypost.com/2018/06/27/sniping-rangers-prospect-steals-the-sh...


Ville Meskanen put 3 pucks in the net in a scrimmage... one in the shootout. Gotta keep an eye on him and Lindqvist...

Brooks says we're interested in Grabner....

Most interesting is he reports Rangers could be in on Tavares.... not to take him, but agree to take on salary in order for a team to sign him. We eat part of his salary for a couple seasons, and they give us some draft picks or something.... or we take on a bad contract of theirs.

And in return, we get Tavares off The Island, and out of the division...


Whether it's part of the Tavares deal or not, the Rangers have two INCREDIBLY valuable assets in their back pocket - time and cap space. They should absolutely be looking at taking a bad contract off someone's hands, in return for a real asset. (They already started exploring this by taking Belesky)

Just make sure it expires before we expect to get competitive.

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concust
Posted 2018-06-28 7:08 AM (#707372 - in reply to #707370)
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ej17 - 2018-06-28 8:07 AM

Played hard, wasn't the toughest but far from the softest player


You will have an easier time convincing Steady Eddie that Staal is a good defenseman, than you will convincing Mj that Nash is worth anything to anyone.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2018-06-28 7:33 AM (#707380 - in reply to #707370)
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ej17 - 2018-06-28 9:07 AM

Played hard, wasn't the toughest but far from the softest player
Playing hard and playing tough are not the same.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2018-06-28 7:34 AM (#707381 - in reply to #707372)
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ej17 - 2018-06-28 8:07 AM

Played hard, wasn't the toughest but far from the softest player


You will have an easier time convincing Steady Eddie that Staal is a good defenseman, than you will convincing Mj that Nash is worth anything to anyone.


I think Eddie is starting to come around.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2018-06-28 7:38 AM (#707382 - in reply to #707371)
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concust - 2018-06-28 9:07 AM

Whether it's part of the Tavares deal or not, the Rangers have two INCREDIBLY valuable assets in their back pocket - time and cap space. They should absolutely be looking at taking a bad contract off someone's hands, in return for a real asset. (They already started exploring this by taking Belesky)

Just make sure it expires before we expect to get competitive.

I don't see the logic in this....but stranger things have happened in the NHL.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 7:46 AM (#707383 - in reply to #706448)
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Taking Bobby Ryan in order to get Marc Stone....Take Lucic and RNH ...many scenarios out there
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 7:49 AM (#707384 - in reply to #706448)
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MJ we just traded Heatl for Nash....I dont like it
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concust
Posted 2018-06-28 8:25 AM (#707389 - in reply to #707382)
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Mjolnir - 2018-06-28 8:38 AM

concust - 2018-06-28 9:07 AM

Whether it's part of the Tavares deal or not, the Rangers have two INCREDIBLY valuable assets in their back pocket - time and cap space. They should absolutely be looking at taking a bad contract off someone's hands, in return for a real asset. (They already started exploring this by taking Belesky)

Just make sure it expires before we expect to get competitive.

I don't see the logic in this....but stranger things have happened in the NHL.


If you're a contender, every little bit of cap space helps. And if you're a contender, you have one or two guys who isn't producing to the level of their cap hit.

So let's say, TB wants to sign Tavares and reunite him with Stamkos, and there's mutual interest. TB can't fit him under their cap, so they need to shed the Callahan contract.

NYR steps in and says we'll take the Callahan contract, but in return, we get a draft pick or a prospect or whatever. Rangers take on the last two years of Callahan's contract and get a prospect or draft pick, TB clears off enough cap space to sign Tavares.

Similar deals happen all the time... one of the things that facilitated the Nash trade was us taking on the Belesky contract in return.

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robstones
Posted 2018-06-28 10:11 AM (#707392 - in reply to #706448)
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Do they put the C back on Cally if he returns????
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 10:30 AM (#707393 - in reply to #707392)
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robstones - 2018-06-28 12:11 PM

Do they put the C back on Cally if he returns????

Immediately!
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Rranger
Posted 2018-06-28 11:54 AM (#707394 - in reply to #706448)
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Rangers are supposedly in on Leo the lip from Toronto, the news just gets better and better. 31 years old and multiple years. Swell.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 12:01 PM (#707395 - in reply to #706448)
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Yep dont want him at all
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2018-06-28 12:06 PM (#707396 - in reply to #706448)
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https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/rangers-reportedly-in-talks-with-lea...

10:48AM: Leo Komarov is reportedly in talks with the Rangers on a potential multi-year deal. (The Fourth Period)

Go Knights !
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 12:09 PM (#707397 - in reply to #706448)
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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-06-28 2:21 PM (#707401 - in reply to #706448)
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Nash says he may take @ least 1 year off due to health issues.
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Mjolnir
Posted 2018-06-28 2:41 PM (#707402 - in reply to #707401)
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LeetchyMrRanger - 2018-06-28 4:21 PM

Nash says he may take @ least 1 year off due to health issues.
He missed almost a month with another concussion - I would think more than twice about returning....it's not like he needs the money....
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Posted 2018-06-28 6:54 PM (#707403 - in reply to #706448)
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Rangers reportedly interested in Ryan Reaves, bit of a step up from Komarov.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 6:57 PM (#707404 - in reply to #707403)
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Rranger - 2018-06-28 8:54 PM

Rangers reportedly interested in Ryan Reaves, bit of a step up from Komarov.

I dont like him either but he is tough...no on Komarov
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robstones
Posted 2018-06-28 8:27 PM (#707405 - in reply to #706448)
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I also heard Duclair
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-28 8:51 PM (#707408 - in reply to #706448)
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No prob with him...depth or makes a comeback
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Rranger
Posted 2018-06-28 9:31 PM (#707410 - in reply to #706448)
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Beleskey is intriguing and could be a good fit on the fourth line. If Smith makes good on coming back as a effective and useful third pair guy, then that’s a start to stiffening the Rangers up. IMO one one more gritty guy to make sure nobody is running kids and that’s a good start. Then let the young guys learn to out battle the other guy instead of trying bullsit smoke and mirrors. Teams that compete the hardest usually win.

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RANGERNUT
Posted 2018-06-29 4:28 AM (#707411 - in reply to #707403)
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Rranger - 2018-06-28 6:54 PM

Rangers reportedly interested in Ryan Reaves, bit of a step up from Komarov.


Knights = "sand paper" ........ Go Knights !
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2018-06-29 4:29 AM (#707412 - in reply to #707405)
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robstones - 2018-06-28 8:27 PM

I also heard Duclair


Duclair = Brendl ....Big Bust !
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ej17
Posted 2018-06-29 4:36 AM (#707413 - in reply to #707412)
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robstones - 2018-06-28 8:27 PM

I also heard Duclair


Duclair = Brendl ....Big Bust !


Duclair was a 3rd round pick, they are always a crapshoot.... Brendl was the 4th overall pick.. No comparison at all!
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RANGERNUT
Posted 2018-06-29 4:45 AM (#707414 - in reply to #707413)
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ej17 - 2018-06-29 4:36 AM

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robstones - 2018-06-28 8:27 PM

I also heard Duclair


Duclair = Brendl ....Big Bust !


Duclair was a 3rd round pick, they are always a crapshoot.... Brendl was the 4th overall pick.. No comparison at all!


The comparison that can be made is that they are both big busts!

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LeetchyMrRanger
Posted 2018-06-29 4:59 AM (#707415 - in reply to #706448)
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Brandl was that 99 draft, right? It was rated the worst draft ever. Brandl was rated top 5 by all scouts. Also, rumors were he started drinking too much. Duke as I remember had a knock on him that he will never put it together, doesn't work hard to be an NHLer.
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Posted 2018-06-29 7:45 AM (#707419 - in reply to #707389)
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concust - 2018-06-28 10:25 AM

Mjolnir - 2018-06-28 8:38 AM

concust - 2018-06-28 9:07 AM

Whether it's part of the Tavares deal or not, the Rangers have two INCREDIBLY valuable assets in their back pocket - time and cap space. They should absolutely be looking at taking a bad contract off someone's hands, in return for a real asset. (They already started exploring this by taking Belesky)

Just make sure it expires before we expect to get competitive.

I don't see the logic in this....but stranger things have happened in the NHL.


If you're a contender, every little bit of cap space helps. And if you're a contender, you have one or two guys who isn't producing to the level of their cap hit.

So let's say, TB wants to sign Tavares and reunite him with Stamkos, and there's mutual interest. TB can't fit him under their cap, so they need to shed the Callahan contract.

NYR steps in and says we'll take the Callahan contract, but in return, we get a draft pick or a prospect or whatever. Rangers take on the last two years of Callahan's contract and get a prospect or draft pick, TB clears off enough cap space to sign Tavares.

Similar deals happen all the time... one of the things that facilitated the Nash trade was us taking on the Belesky contract in return.



With regards to TB and picking up a contract (or 2) if they sign Tavares, a couple of contracts they may be looking to move are Tyler Johnson and Alex Killorn. Think I'd much rather have Killorn than Callahan, even if his contract has 5 years left at 4.45 per AAV. Plays hard, can PK and is also a pain in the butt every time the Rangers play them. still just 28yo so could be part of the rebuild at a controlled amount.

Johnson - think I'd stay away. His contract is a year longer at 5.0 per AAV and while a year younger, his numbers are trending downward already. Also, while Killorn is 6'1, 200lbs, Johnson is 5'8, 180ish.

Not sure they'd send a draft pick along too, but Killorn could also be that character guy/mentor they're looking for as well.

JMHO
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-29 8:09 AM (#707420 - in reply to #706448)
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Killorn has a NTC....Hell No on Johnson...too small...If we are going to help TB get Tavares...then the pot has to be sweet
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-06-29 8:23 AM (#707421 - in reply to #706448)
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So far at the prospects camp....I can't say Ive seen Sean Day's name mentioned
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