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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 8:36 AM (#707522 - in reply to #706448)
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Sounds like JVR is getting 7 mil per....yuck
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Posted 2018-07-01 8:36 AM (#707523 - in reply to #706448)
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Do we find out today if Kravtsov stays here? Or is there no timetable on that..... not sure how KHL contracts work
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Posted 2018-07-01 8:38 AM (#707524 - in reply to #707522)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-01 10:36 AM

Sounds like JVR is getting 7 mil per....yuck


It's so weird how these numbers surface.... aren't these guys technically not allowed to negotiate until noon?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 8:40 AM (#707525 - in reply to #707524)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-01 10:36 AM

Sounds like JVR is getting 7 mil per....yuck


It's so weird how these numbers surface.... aren't these guys technically not allowed to negotiate until noon?

Not sure...they may be able to make the deal but not sign
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 8:41 AM (#707526 - in reply to #706448)
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If Names skips off to USSR I would never draft or trade for one again
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 8:42 AM (#707527 - in reply to #706448)
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Rangers one of multiple teams in mix for Rieder but price seems to escalating.

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Posted 2018-07-01 8:58 AM (#707528 - in reply to #706448)
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Yes, can discuss but not sign. That is a lot for JVR. Bottom line is to play with the big fish on July 1st you have to sign long (potentially questionable) big dollar deals. No different than making trades on trade DL day where you have to overpay and give up 1st round picks. That is another reason I think we don't do much today.

With this coming season being almost like a punt, we are not going to get into the deep end. And as I said I am 100% fine with that if it is a one season type deal to grow the kids, and then we are ready to start rolling again next summer.


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Posted 2018-07-01 8:59 AM (#707529 - in reply to #707526)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-01 8:41 AM

If Names skips off to USSR I would never draft or trade for one again

No need to ever wonder why a Russian falls in a draft or gets rated lower, this is why. Cannot trust what they are going to do. I hope he doesn't go because it hurts us if he does. Either as a solid top 9 forward OR as trade bait.

I think we'll hear on Kravtsov this week.





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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 9:01 AM (#707530 - in reply to #706448)
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Yeah lets hope...I like Kravs attitude so far...There is no good reason for him to go back to KHL...buy the year out and go to Hartford or the big team
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 9:04 AM (#707531 - in reply to #706448)
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 9:10 AM (#707532 - in reply to #706448)
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As of 11 am ET, the teams involved in the Tavares bidding have not been told they are out.

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Posted 2018-07-01 9:10 AM (#707533 - in reply to #706448)
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Russians aren't the only players who skip off to Russia.... The fact they speak Russian and get to go "home" makes the decision easier, but it's always about the money.

Nigel Dawes has been in the KHL for 5+ years now... Ben Scrivens.... James Wiesnewski.... a bunch of guys.

That said, if Namestnikov signs in the KHL, do The Rangers get compensated? He's a RFA, so they still own his rights
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Posted 2018-07-01 9:12 AM (#707534 - in reply to #707531)
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Rumors that Vladislav Namestnikov considering signing in the KHL are absolutely not true. Playing in the NHL is a privilege and honor. Contract extension is in works.

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There is no collusion
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Posted 2018-07-01 9:14 AM (#707535 - in reply to #706448)
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No, not exclusive, but heavily leaning Russians who go.

But sounds like it isn't happening, which is good. Keep him and deal Spooner (although I actually like Spooner better - which maybe means a little higher value). Then look to deal Hayes or Zib. And sign a bottom 6 forward with grit and a vet dman. Then we move forward with kids this year and see how it goes. Zucc is a trade DL deal if they don't want to resign him.


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Posted 2018-07-01 9:16 AM (#707536 - in reply to #706448)
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Names skips and we got hosed. McDonough and Miller for two prospects (who might never be) and a 1st rounder (wasted). Thanks, AV for screwing up Miller AND Names.

Kovalchuk was sure to sign with us; he had a home in NJ. Signed with LA, as far from NJ as you can get. Then Ryan Reaves, big hitter we need. Resigned with VGK. Next, JVR was a Ranger fan and he was coming here. Signing with Flyers today.

Bottom line, we won't be getting any top players anytime soon. Same team (w/o Names?) that finished the season. Losers!

When does Hank ask to get out? After he faces >50 shots 3 games in a row? I'm reminded of Gump Worsley, when asked which team gave him the most trouble, he snapped back :"The Rangers."
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Posted 2018-07-01 9:17 AM (#707537 - in reply to #706448)
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No compensation from khl for RFA. Most of the Russian players that go home weren’t much of a factor over here. It’s no different than fringe NA NHL’ers signing to play in Europe. You go where the wild green grows and opportunity exists.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 9:19 AM (#707538 - in reply to #706448)
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Stastny getting 3 years 6.5 mil from LV....Winnipeg has a ton of RFA to signs and gotta pay Laine next year
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Posted 2018-07-01 9:20 AM (#707539 - in reply to #706448)
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This is actually not a bad deal at all for Vegas. Really good deal actually. Surprised he left the Peg for that. Maybe he wanted to be back in the US:

Once it becomes official after 12 noon ET when it can be papered/signed, VGK deal with Paul Stastny is three years with an AAV of $6.5M. Stastny, BTW, is already in Vegas in anticipation of the completed deal.



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Posted 2018-07-01 9:21 AM (#707540 - in reply to #707535)
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Go NYR - 2018-07-01 11:14 AM

No, not exclusive, but heavily leaning Russians who go.




Sure, but I don't buy in to the fear of "them" skipping town just because they're Russian.... it doesn't make a guy a risk on draft day, or in a trade. This is the hands down best league. If you're a hockey player, you want to be here. You want to play with the best. You want to win a Stanley Cup, and you want to get paid. In order of importance.
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Posted 2018-07-01 9:22 AM (#707541 - in reply to #707538)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-01 11:19 AM

Stastny getting 3 years 6.5 mil from LV....Winnipeg has a ton of RFA to signs and gotta pay Laine next year


And they're short on centers, but heavy on RHD.... 1 step closer to Hayes for Trouba
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Posted 2018-07-01 9:23 AM (#707542 - in reply to #707536)
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NTHockey - 2018-07-01 9:16 AM

Names skips and we got hosed. McDonough and Miller for two prospects (who might never be) and a 1st rounder (wasted). Thanks, AV for screwing up Miller AND Names.

Kovalchuk was sure to sign with us; he had a home in NJ. Signed with LA, as far from NJ as you can get. Then Ryan Reaves, big hitter we need. Resigned with VGK. Next, JVR was a Ranger fan and he was coming here. Signing with Flyers today.

Bottom line, we won't be getting any top players anytime soon. Same team (w/o Names?) that finished the season. Losers!

When does Hank ask to get out? After he faces >50 shots 3 games in a row? I'm reminded of Gump Worsley, when asked which team gave him the most trouble, he snapped back :"The Rangers."

And thank god we didn't get some of these guys. Zero interest in JVR at 7 mill for 5 years. Giving Reaves over 3 mill a year is certainly not worth it either (when did this guy become so overrated). And for us it didn't make sense to sign Kovy for that much for 3 years.

I really don't have any issues missing on these guys. And Name is not leaving it sounds like, so he'll be here.



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Posted 2018-07-01 9:24 AM (#707543 - in reply to #707540)
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No, not exclusive, but heavily leaning Russians who go.




Sure, but I don't buy in to the fear of "them" skipping town just because they're Russian.... it doesn't make a guy a risk on draft day, or in a trade. This is the hands down best league. If you're a hockey player, you want to be here. You want to play with the best. You want to win a Stanley Cup, and you want to get paid. In order of importance.

You may not think so, but the league does. They get rated lower in drafts because of that. They get drafted lower because of that. So you may not buy it, but the league does.


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Posted 2018-07-01 9:38 AM (#707544 - in reply to #707541)
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Mikey Red - 2018-07-01 11:19 AM

Stastny getting 3 years 6.5 mil from LV....Winnipeg has a ton of RFA to signs and gotta pay Laine next year


And they're short on centers, but heavy on RHD.... 1 step closer to Hayes for Trouba

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Posted 2018-07-01 9:39 AM (#707545 - in reply to #706448)
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Absolutely no reason for Krav to go back to KHL
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:03 AM (#707546 - in reply to #706448)
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:06 AM (#707547 - in reply to #706448)
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Terrible contract
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:06 AM (#707548 - in reply to #706448)
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Nearly 7 million for 7 years of McD...... ouch
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:08 AM (#707549 - in reply to #706448)
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McDonagh gets 6.75 for seven years. Miller gets signed, both in a better deeper team with lots of big money contracts already.
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:20 AM (#707550 - in reply to #706448)
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I don't know, that is not an awful deal. Not on that level, but Doughty just got 11 mill per. To me a 6.75 cap hit is not awful (he was at 4.7). I don't think that is a bad deal for TB. I think he is trending down, and if he isn't now he will be in a year or two, but that is not a terrible contract IMO.

Clearly means no Tavares for TB. Miller and McDonagh find their long term homes. And man they have a lot of big deals now. Their window is the next 2 seasons you'd figure. Florida having no state income tax does help them though.






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Posted 2018-07-01 10:20 AM (#707551 - in reply to #706448)
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I am really glad we didn’t sign washed up bad character lazy Kovalchuk overpriced JVR ,Tavares cirques goes on without us being involved.
MCD contract will hunt them like the one they gave to Callahan.


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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 10:22 AM (#707552 - in reply to #706448)
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:23 AM (#707553 - in reply to #706448)
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:27 AM (#707554 - in reply to #707552)
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Three Years for Michael Grabner in Arizona.

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Good for him and he deserves it but not for us at this stage of our rebuild .
2 years for 2 mills perhaps.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-07-01 10:28 AM (#707555 - in reply to #706448)
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Grabner doubled his salary after a horrendous playoffs...America...what a Country
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Posted 2018-07-01 10:35 AM (#707556 - in reply to #706448)
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