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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-18 10:14 AM (#709387 - in reply to #709385)
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robstones - 2018-09-18 12:02 PM

Brooks reports first cuts are coming today

And Sean Day is on the list

Doesn't even get a preseason game. BUST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
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Posted 2018-09-18 10:21 AM (#709388 - in reply to #709167)
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Posted 2018-09-18 11:25 AM (#709391 - in reply to #709388)
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Mikey Red - 2018-09-18 12:21 PM

Rob are you employed a-gain?


Ha not yet
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Posted 2018-09-18 11:35 AM (#709393 - in reply to #709386)
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Steady Eddie - 2018-09-18 11:08 AM

robstones - 2018-09-18 12:02 PM

Brooks reports first cuts are coming today

And Sean Day is on the list

Doesn't even get a preseason game. BUST


A 3rd round pick that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


A defenseman coming out of the OHL that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.

A 20 year old that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-18 11:54 AM (#709396 - in reply to #709167)
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I would say Fogarty, Schneider, Lindqvist and Gettinger are on the cut list too
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Posted 2018-09-18 1:11 PM (#709397 - in reply to #709393)
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concust - 2018-09-18 1:35 PM

Steady Eddie - 2018-09-18 11:08 AM

robstones - 2018-09-18 12:02 PM

Brooks reports first cuts are coming today

And Sean Day is on the list

Doesn't even get a preseason game. BUST


A 3rd round pick that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


A defenseman coming out of the OHL that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.

A 20 year old that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


He's the same age as Lindgren.... He was a healthy scratch in Traverse City, and doesn't last 5 days in training camp.

Maybe he puts it together in Hartford, but the writing seems to be on the wall
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Posted 2018-09-18 1:31 PM (#709400 - in reply to #709167)
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Sean Day, Brandon Halverson, Dawson Leedahl, Chris Nell, Vince Pedrie, and Ty Ronning to Hartford

Nico Gross to Oshawa Generals

Brodeur... who cares?
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-18 1:46 PM (#709402 - in reply to #709167)
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So much for Ty being on the opening night roster...which I have seen in a few places by misguided fans....What did they see in Fogarty and Lindqvist last night?...They were terrible
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Posted 2018-09-18 1:50 PM (#709403 - in reply to #709167)
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PROJECTED #NYR LINEUP TOMORROW VS PHI:

GOALTENDERS
Lundqvist
Tokarski

SKATERS
Holland
Spooner
Vesey
Fontaine
Beleskey
Smith
Hajek
Howden
Gilmour
Chytil
Skjei
DeAngelo
Gropp
Keane
Buchnevich
Namestnikov
Zibanejad
Lettieri

No McQuaid?
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Posted 2018-09-18 2:16 PM (#709404 - in reply to #709167)
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Vesey Zibanejad Buchnevich
Namestnikov Chytil Lettieri
Spooner Howden Belesky
Gropp Fontaine Holland

Skjei DeAngelo
Hajek Keane
Smith Gilmour

Is my shot at lineup prediction
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concust
Posted 2018-09-18 2:21 PM (#709405 - in reply to #709167)
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Official - Rangers cut 8:

Day, Halverson, Leedahl, Nell, Pedrie, Ronning to Wolf Pack
Nico Gross to Juniors
Jeremy Brodeur released from PTO
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Posted 2018-09-18 2:28 PM (#709406 - in reply to #709397)
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robstones - 2018-09-18 2:11 PM

concust - 2018-09-18 1:35 PM

Steady Eddie - 2018-09-18 11:08 AM

robstones - 2018-09-18 12:02 PM

Brooks reports first cuts are coming today

And Sean Day is on the list

Doesn't even get a preseason game. BUST


A 3rd round pick that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


A defenseman coming out of the OHL that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.

A 20 year old that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


He's the same age as Lindgren.... He was a healthy scratch in Traverse City, and doesn't last 5 days in training camp.

Maybe he puts it together in Hartford, but the writing seems to be on the wall


Maybe? But don't you want to give a 20 year old defenseman at least a year in the AHL before he's labeled a bust? I mean the chances are pretty high that he tops out in the AHL, and after a year or two he goes to Europe. Which is fine since he was a third round pick... I just think expectations should be in line with the player he is, not the player he was when he was 15.

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Posted 2018-09-18 3:21 PM (#709408 - in reply to #709167)
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It's just pretty telling that he doesn't get much of a look in Traverse City, nor even a game in preseason here.

I'm not looking at the status he was given when he was 15. We're talking about a player we drafted in the 3rd round.... a round that produced Buchnevich and Duclair. Hell, Joey Keane was drafted in the 3rd round this year and is in the lineup tomorrow.

Give him the year in the AHL.... he clearly needs it if the mistakes he's making are that glaring that he's sent down already.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-18 3:23 PM (#709409 - in reply to #709167)
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I believe there is something that went down that Day may have pissed off somebody
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Posted 2018-09-18 7:33 PM (#709414 - in reply to #709408)
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robstones - 2018-09-18 3:21 PM

It's just pretty telling that he doesn't get much of a look in Traverse City, nor even a game in preseason here.

I'm not looking at the status he was given when he was 15. We're talking about a player we drafted in the 3rd round.... a round that produced Buchnevich and Duclair. Hell, Joey Keane was drafted in the 3rd round this year and is in the lineup tomorrow.

Give him the year in the AHL.... he clearly needs it if the mistakes he's making are that glaring that he's sent down already.


Did Day have a chance to make this team? We all know the answer. There are a lot of defensemen here currently ahead of him. Sending him down now relieves any pressure and let's him start the stage of his career we all knew he'd be on this season. And being drafted in the 3rd round shouldn't carry expectations no matter who you list. Duclair was't tendered. Buchnevich fell like a lot of Russians that have the KHL option. List all the third rounders that haven't made it. It will be about 80-90% of them?
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Posted 2018-09-18 7:41 PM (#709417 - in reply to #709393)
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concust - 2018-09-18 10:35 AM

Steady Eddie - 2018-09-18 11:08 AM

robstones - 2018-09-18 12:02 PM

Brooks reports first cuts are coming today

And Sean Day is on the list

Doesn't even get a preseason game. BUST


A 3rd round pick that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


A defenseman coming out of the OHL that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.

A 20 year old that doesn't make the NHL is not a bust.


A 20 year old who got into the CHL as one of a handful of 15 year olds, who originally projected as a 1st rounder, who then went in the 3rd round, who got sent back to the OHL last year rather than going to the AHL and now is one of a handful of cuts in the first round, is on the wrong career trajectory. While it's hard to call a 3rd round pick a bust, I would say that expectations for him making the NHL at this stage should be appropriately very low to non-existent.
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Posted 2018-09-18 8:13 PM (#709420 - in reply to #709167)
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I just don't understand not giving him the experience. Play against NHL talent. Let him taste it a bit.

Let alone Traverse City.... Lias Andersson didn't need to play in that.

Understood that Day isn't making the team... there's 18 defenseman at the start of camp... He got cut before Joey Keane who was drafted two years after Day, and Crawley who was drafted 1 year after Day.

Neither of them are making the team, either.... They'll see preseason hockey though... Like Fish said, the trajectory isn't pointing in the right direction.

Hopefully he learns something in Hartford. He needs to start at least being in the conversation as a call up, at some point... or he's a bust. 3rd round or not, call it what you want. Part of the 80% that don't make it.
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Posted 2018-09-18 10:01 PM (#709421 - in reply to #709167)
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In junior hockey you see kids trying to make it. Some have a car load of talent and they can fool you with the expectation they are going to put it all together and be a player, until you realize they have no brain or heart or guts. Some have the ability to figure it out and put it all together and move onwards and upwards. The ones that don’t get weeded out. Not to many secrets on guys after playing at the junior and college level. Day is unique because his raw physical abilities lead to opinions and expectations that dwarf his mental game and compete attitude that are a must part of a NHL players game. In some ways his ability to get to pro hockey with so many obvious question marks is a testament to his skill level, lessor skilled players would have been already dumped. In its simplest form whats lacking is his minds ability to utilize the enormous physical ability he’s got. His talent which is incredible still gives one the hope he gets it together even though it’s more likely he ends up in the ECHL and it’s one and done this year, ending in a release or trade. Very very important year coming up for that kid. Unless he figures it out soon he won’t be around long.
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Posted 2018-09-19 12:00 PM (#709430 - in reply to #709417)
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Fish - 2018-09-18 8:41 PM

A 20 year old who got into the CHL as one of a handful of 15 year olds, who originally projected as a 1st rounder, who then went in the 3rd round, who got sent back to the OHL last year rather than going to the AHL and now is one of a handful of cuts in the first round, is on the wrong career trajectory. While it's hard to call a 3rd round pick a bust, I would say that expectations for him making the NHL at this stage should be appropriately very low to non-existent.


Again, you're still comparing him to expectations from 5 years ago. There are plenty of "projected for the first round" kids who fall to later rounds, 3 years later.

A third rounder getting sent back to the OHL for an overage year, is not unusual at the least. I don't have high hopes for him making the NHL but I never really did. Forget that he's "Sean Day" for a minute and just realize that he's a third round pick, lots of talent but questions surrounding hockey IQ and work ethic, he's starting in the AHL as a 20 year old... none of that is unusual or immediate cause for concern. If anything, a third round pick getting to the AHL is actually already pretty decent value for where he was picked.
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-20 8:31 AM (#709537 - in reply to #709167)
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Joey Keane has been sent back to his Juniors team
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Posted 2018-09-20 8:38 AM (#709538 - in reply to #709167)
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LOTS of love for TD out there in Ranger article world
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Posted 2018-09-20 9:11 AM (#709539 - in reply to #709167)
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DeAngelo really hasn't been bad. I don't think he's been good enough to make the team, but not bad.

I'm getting more excited about this season. Zibanejad was really good last night
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Posted 2018-09-20 9:16 AM (#709540 - in reply to #709167)
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Not sure which I liked more










Lias had the better game, but the puck protection and release by Chytil was nice... Let's not forget about Buchnevich





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Posted 2018-09-20 9:50 AM (#709543 - in reply to #709537)
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Mikey Red - 2018-09-20 10:31 AM

Joey Keane has been sent back to his Juniors team


He being cut gives them two full team

13 forwards 7 defensemen and 2 goalies

On each squad. So we can assume one squad will play the Islanders on Saturday and The Devils Monday with cuts coming Tuesday? Maybe?
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Posted 2018-09-20 10:27 AM (#709544 - in reply to #709543)
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Mikey Red - 2018-09-20 10:31 AM

Joey Keane has been sent back to his Juniors team


He being cut gives them two full team

13 forwards 7 defensemen and 2 goalies

On each squad. So we can assume one squad will play the Islanders on Saturday and The Devils Monday with cuts coming Tuesday? Maybe?


This sounds reasonable. On the other hand, I could also see that they may want another look at a guy or two after the Islanders game and may play him for the Devils also. I mean I'm pretty sure Kreider is going to make the team, so it would be smart of them to use that preseason roster spot to better evaluate someone who is on the bubble.
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Posted 2018-09-20 5:09 PM (#709551 - in reply to #709167)
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I didn't want to make a new thread for it, but just read Duguay won't be in the studio with Valliquette between periods and post game. Unsure who will replace him

I vote Sean Avery

Edited by robstones 2018-09-20 5:13 PM
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-20 5:18 PM (#709552 - in reply to #709551)
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robstones - 2018-09-20 7:09 PM

I didn't want to make a new thread for it, but just read Duguay won't be in the studio with Valliquette between periods and post game. Unsure who will replace him

I vote Sean Avery

Dam...I liked Duguay...I dont like Valliquette
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Posted 2018-09-22 9:03 AM (#709571 - in reply to #709167)
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Guess on the lineup tonight

Namestnikov Chytil Zuccarello
Spooner Andersson Lettieri
Vesey Howden Butler
McLeod Holland Schneider

Hajek Shattenkirk
Gilmour McQuaid
Crawley Bigras


Tokarski
Georgiev
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Posted 2018-09-22 9:37 AM (#709573 - in reply to #709167)
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GOALTENDERS
Tokarski
Georgiev

SKATERS
McLeod
Holland
Shattenkirk
Spooner
Butler
Vesey
Bigras
Schneider
Zuccarello
Hajek
Howden
Andersson
McQuaid
Gilmour
Chytil
Crawley
Namestnikov
Lettieri
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Posted 2018-09-23 5:22 AM (#709612 - in reply to #709573)
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Must clear waivers:
Bigras
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Mazanec
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DeAngelo
Holland
McLeod
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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-23 7:03 AM (#709614 - in reply to #709167)
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I would waive and hope to lose McLeod and Smith...I would like to keep around TD, Beleskey and Claesson....The rest of the guys are Never Rangers
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Posted 2018-09-23 8:13 AM (#709616 - in reply to #709167)
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There is word out there that the Brass does not love Shesty....but they do love Lindbom...Also Rykov is not playing... waiting for a trade
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Posted 2018-09-23 8:42 AM (#709617 - in reply to #709167)
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Shestyorkin has 2 shutouts in 4 games with a 4-0 record, and beat out Hellberg for the starting position... I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't like him

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Mikey Red
Posted 2018-09-23 8:59 AM (#709618 - in reply to #709167)
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I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit
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Posted 2018-09-23 10:48 AM (#709622 - in reply to #709618)
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Mikey Red - 2018-09-23 8:59 AM

I hear ya...but the counter point is that he is on a stacked team and the rest of the League is chit


Blueshirt banter trash comments. Some random poster guesses right on a draft pick and now he's a Ranger insider.
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