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Mikey Red
Posted 2019-05-01 6:50 AM (#725109 - in reply to #723832)
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robstones - 2019-05-01 8:44 AM

All I know is that Neal Pionk came in out of college, and was able to turn some heads. Was one our best defenseman for a while before he plateaued, but is still an NHL caliber player nonetheless..... Adam Fox is better than Neal Pionk.

Lets hope Man! You watch the CBJ Boston series and you will realize there is no place out there on the ice for Pionk and Shatty types....Big Boy hockey
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Posted 2019-05-01 6:55 AM (#725111 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 7:11 AM (#725112 - in reply to #723832)
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I would think that Gorton will try to move way up in the draft with his second pick. If I read it right, the Av's have about 22 million in cap room next year. They have to sign Raantanen. He's going to cost about 9 million a year. So probably about 13 million in cap space. I would think you could trade them Skjei and Kreider with the Jets first rounder and that might get you up to 4. More likely they trade up with Buffalo at 7. The moron Sabres need to win now. Maybe Skjei and Pionk with the Jets pick to 7. Or Kreider and Pionk with that pick. Either way, Gorton needs to move up with his second first rounder. It just makes sense. Bring back Zucc.
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Posted 2019-05-01 7:34 AM (#725113 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 7:41 AM (#725115 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 7:44 AM (#725116 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 8:04 AM (#725118 - in reply to #725108)
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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 5:49 AM

We can basically look at it as having drafted Fox. Regardless where the Dallas pick ends up we will still be getting 5 players in the first 2 rounds. So I am not worried about the payment. Going to be a VERY interesting Summer. Elliote Friedman said in his 31 thoughts that a NHL exec said watch the Rangers to be very active...including offer sheets.

On D now
Skjei TD
Staal Shattypants
Smith Pionk

Coming
Hajek Fox
Lindgren Keane
Crawley Nils
Rykov
KAM
Gross
Ragnarsson

I would say Cleasson is gone and some magic has to be done with Staal Smith Shattypants and Pionk




Me thinks Gorton will be busy swapping out Dmen this summer. Lindgren, Hajek have to make the next step up. Fox and Rykov banging on the door. Its imperative to get some of this young blood into the Rangers lineup.
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Posted 2019-05-01 8:10 AM (#725119 - in reply to #725118)
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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 5:49 AM

We can basically look at it as having drafted Fox. Regardless where the Dallas pick ends up we will still be getting 5 players in the first 2 rounds. So I am not worried about the payment. Going to be a VERY interesting Summer. Elliote Friedman said in his 31 thoughts that a NHL exec said watch the Rangers to be very active...including offer sheets.

On D now
Skjei TD
Staal Shattypants
Smith Pionk

Coming
Hajek Fox
Lindgren Keane
Crawley Nils
Rykov
KAM
Gross
Ragnarsson

I would say Cleasson is gone and some magic has to be done with Staal Smith Shattypants and Pionk




Me thinks Gorton will be busy swapping out Dmen this summer. Lindgren, Hajek have to make the next step up. Fox and Rykov banging on the door. Its imperative to get some of this young blood into the Rangers lineup.

Absolutely
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Posted 2019-05-01 9:58 AM (#725120 - in reply to #725113)
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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 9:34 AM

You look at the teams still playing...None are full of little guy D men

Bingo!!! Big and fast
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Posted 2019-05-01 10:12 AM (#725121 - in reply to #725120)
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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 9:34 AM

You look at the teams still playing...None are full of little guy D men

Bingo!!! Big and fast
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Posted 2019-05-01 10:30 AM (#725122 - in reply to #725113)
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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 8:34 AM

You look at the teams still playing...None are full of little guy D men


Don't worry, Gorton kept the receipt
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:20 PM (#725123 - in reply to #723832)
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Adam Fox has been added the the US National team for the World Championships.
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:28 PM (#725124 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:29 PM (#725125 - in reply to #723832)
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From Brooks article:

Gorton would not say it because he cannot, but the Rangers would feel pretty good about themselves if they could go into next season with Trouba, Fox and Tony DeAngelo lining up one-two-three on the right side of the blue line with Neal Pionk in reserve.

“It’s no secret we need to improve our defense. It was not good enough for us to be what we want to be,” Gorton said. “It’s something we recognize and we’re acting on.

“It’s not just the defense. We’re not in the playoffs. We’re bringing in quality, young players to compete for jobs. That’s what it’s about. We’re building to win the Stanley Cup.”
Tuesday, a block was laid.

It was spelled, F-O-X.
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:30 PM (#725126 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:39 PM (#725127 - in reply to #723832)
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I don't get a vote but I'd say no to Karlsson. He's 28 but he's got a lot of miles on him. He plays like he's 31. I think he's past his prime unfortunately, and his injuries have/are going to catch up to him very quickly.
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:54 PM (#725128 - in reply to #723832)
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I'm fine with swapping Shatt with Fox, and that's it... If Staal stays, that's fine.... to start the season.

Skjei DeAngelo
Staal Fox
Hajek Pionk
Lindgren

Would be ok until the trade deadline where after most of a seaso of experience for the rookies, they can unload Staal and/or Pionk

Edited by robstones 2019-05-01 12:55 PM
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Posted 2019-05-01 12:56 PM (#725129 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-01 4:16 PM (#725131 - in reply to #725128)
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robstones - 2019-05-01 11:54 AM

I'm fine with swapping Shatt with Fox, and that's it... If Staal stays, that's fine.... to start the season.

Skjei DeAngelo
Staal Fox
Hajek Pionk
Lindgren

Would be ok until the trade deadline where after most of a seaso of experience for the rookies, they can unload Staal and/or Pionk





I'm ok with that except I'd move Pionk for a veteran type or at least sign one. I'd even take Girardi back for a year or two. Freed from Chewys no mind defense he'd be fine for a year or two playing meat and potatoes defense for the Rangers. And more importantly he'd have their back. They are going to neneed some of that. Then Easily replace the Girardi type a year or two down the road Lunkvist ect.
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Posted 2019-05-01 5:52 PM (#725132 - in reply to #723832)
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Talented player so he still has a time to develop and be top pair or second pair.
Our D at this time is a so so formation.
Good trade.
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Posted 2019-05-02 8:37 AM (#725160 - in reply to #723832)
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Rangers used to be lucky to have one prospect in the Top-100 prospects list. After June they'll have about 5, and most of those guys are probably top-50 guys.

Dump always argues when I said that the Rangers farm system was not that good. At the time it wasn't, they had no top end talent and at most had some depth. What you're seeing now is the difference. After June the Rangers have a top 5 prospect pool in the league, arguably top 3.
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Posted 2019-05-02 9:27 AM (#725161 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-02 3:23 PM (#725168 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-02 5:34 PM (#725169 - in reply to #723832)
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Fox also made the cut for Team USA in the upcoming WC tournament. A guess at their pairings could have him playing with Skjei

Noah Hanafin - Ryan Suter
Brady Skjei - Adam Fox
Quinn Hughes - Alec Martinez
Christian Wolanin

But we'll see.

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Posted 2019-05-02 5:47 PM (#725171 - in reply to #723832)
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Besides the name, I don't know much about this player, so for me, time will tell.
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Posted 2019-05-02 5:51 PM (#725172 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-03 5:55 AM (#725175 - in reply to #725121)
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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 10:12 AM

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Mikey Red - 2019-05-01 9:34 AM

You look at the teams still playing...None are full of little guy D men

Bingo!!! Big and fast


Absolute nonsense. Karlsson, Barrie, Faulk, Makar, and Krug are huge parts of their teams and none are big. Krug is a shrimp and plays over 20 minutes a game. You don't want a defense with a lot of small defenseman but if you don't have guys that can work the PP or move the puck at all, you're just as screwed as having too many that are small on your D. A big, righty defenseman with skill is needed. It isn't Trouba so give up that stupid pipe dream. He is greedy and he will want 8+ milllion. No thanks.
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Posted 2019-05-03 7:33 AM (#725177 - in reply to #723832)
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all 30 teams line up at Winnipegs door for him without batting an eye...Don't worry we have Shattenkirk and Pionk
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Posted 2019-05-03 7:43 AM (#725178 - in reply to #725131)
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robstones - 2019-05-01 11:54 AM

I'm fine with swapping Shatt with Fox, and that's it... If Staal stays, that's fine.... to start the season.

Skjei DeAngelo
Staal Fox
Hajek Pionk
Lindgren

Would be ok until the trade deadline where after most of a seaso of experience for the rookies, they can unload Staal and/or Pionk





I'm ok with that except I'd move Pionk for a veteran type or at least sign one. I'd even take Girardi back for a year or two. Freed from Chewys no mind defense he'd be fine for a year or two playing meat and potatoes defense for the Rangers. And more importantly he'd have their back. They are going to neneed some of that. Then Easily replace the Girardi type a year or two down the road Lunkvist ect.


No, No No - a thousand times no to a Gerardi return. Have we learned nothing? Have you watched Gerardi in Tampa?

We need to get rid of d-men skating in quicksand (Shattenkirk) or well past their prime (Staal). We've got a rebuild going - why on earth go backwards now?
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Posted 2019-05-03 7:59 AM (#725180 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-03 8:40 AM (#725182 - in reply to #725178)
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I'm fine with swapping Shatt with Fox, and that's it... If Staal stays, that's fine.... to start the season.

Skjei DeAngelo
Staal Fox
Hajek Pionk
Lindgren

Would be ok until the trade deadline where after most of a seaso of experience for the rookies, they can unload Staal and/or Pionk





I'm ok with that except I'd move Pionk for a veteran type or at least sign one. I'd even take Girardi back for a year or two. Freed from Chewys no mind defense he'd be fine for a year or two playing meat and potatoes defense for the Rangers. And more importantly he'd have their back. They are going to neneed some of that. Then Easily replace the Girardi type a year or two down the road Lunkvist ect.


No, No No - a thousand times no to a Gerardi return. Have we learned nothing? Have you watched Gerardi in Tampa?

We need to get rid of d-men skating in quicksand (Shattenkirk) or well past their prime (Staal). We've got a rebuild going - why on earth go backwards now?



I'm suggesting Girardi if nothing else isn't out there, or a player who brings his intangibles. I don't know what Tampa games you have watched but he spent most of the year playing with Hedman. He is still capable of a third pair role similar to Adam McQuaid, mentoring young players. Successful defenses need some different types to round out a staff, not all the same. Pionk and a kid are not going to do you much good if other teams are running around. The Rangers have one of the softest defenses in the entire league and its a issue needing addressing by Gorton this summer. Thankfully I think he gets it and will do something about it similar to picking up McQuaid like last year.
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Posted 2019-05-03 12:22 PM (#725186 - in reply to #723832)
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I like Shattenkirk personally. He loved the Rangers and took less to come here. I hope they do the right thing by him. Pionk was good early on. Playing 25+ min a night. Got banged up and played shaky the second half. That being said, makes no sense to have no size on the right size with DeAngelo, Fox and him. He needs to be dealt. Keep in mind if you are planning to expose guys to the expansion draft, just trade them now and get more prospects and picks. Fast needs to be dealt. Pionk needs to be moved. Some guys contracts are up before the expansion draft. Try to move Smith, Staal and Shattenkirk. Retain if you have to. Namestnikov has to be dealt as well at some point.

Florida would be my main trade target. It's a fn disgrace they missed the playoffs with two, young, 90 point scorers. Their role players suck and their goalies have sucked for years. Luongo is 100. Love to see Hank go their but he won't.

I offer up a package of Fast, Namestnikov, Pionk, Nieves and either Huska or Wall for Trocheck. I think they have a very hard time turning that down. Florida needs depth. They need forwards that can play defense. Rangers need one guy to help the offense of some of their young players.
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Posted 2019-05-03 12:32 PM (#725188 - in reply to #723832)
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Posted 2019-05-04 11:35 AM (#725265 - in reply to #725186)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2019-05-03 12:22 PM

I like Shattenkirk personally. He loved the Rangers and took less to come here. I hope they do the right thing by him. Pionk was good early on. Playing 25+ min a night. Got banged up and played shaky the second half. That being said, makes no sense to have no size on the right size with DeAngelo, Fox and him. He needs to be dealt. Keep in mind if you are planning to expose guys to the expansion draft, just trade them now and get more prospects and picks. Fast needs to be dealt. Pionk needs to be moved. Some guys contracts are up before the expansion draft. Try to move Smith, Staal and Shattenkirk. Retain if you have to. Namestnikov has to be dealt as well at some point.

Florida would be my main trade target. It's a fn disgrace they missed the playoffs with two, young, 90 point scorers. Their role players suck and their goalies have sucked for years. Luongo is 100. Love to see Hank go their but he won't.

I offer up a package of Fast, Namestnikov, Pionk, Nieves and either Huska or Wall for Trocheck. I think they have a very hard time turning that down. Florida needs depth. They need forwards that can play defense. Rangers need one guy to help the offense of some of their young players.


This isn't a video game. You can't just keep adding garbage players into a deal until it balances out the good player and the trade goes through. You're a hack even for an ECHL quality armchair GM. And this was Luongo's first bad season in almost a decade. God you just suck at evaluating everything.
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