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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-06 11:42 AM (#775917 - in reply to #775887)
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PV29 - 2021-03-06 10:39 AM

Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-05 11:51 PM  I don’t think it’s that tough to understand... money, the stock market, profit, brand pride, tv commercials, advertisers...etc etc etc is the dividing line of what’s politically correct... again, Chris Matthews, a big liberal, 30 years MSNBC highly decorated broadcaster .. FIRED .... Canceled in one night for using a bad analogy about the Holocaust that offended Bernie Sanders... Al Franken major liberal Senator, on a military comedy tour in the Middle East. with a military comedian woman.. she fell asleep on the plane, and he pretended to grab her breast.... Canceled. Mean while there’s photos of her roasting him, while he feel asleep. My point of this thread is, this is nothing new. But since Trump, who is openly old Archie Bunker, bigot, racist, fascist, sexist who stirred the pot like a third world country dictator, has made it appear it’s okay for everyone else to be outwardly disgusting. But it’s not okay, to be these things at work, you’re free to say anything you want, but, again there’s a reason why the KKK wore hoods!

 

I kinda understand how Trump's style is too coarse for some, but I have no clue why people insist that he's racist, bigoted or a fascist.

What has he done that proves that he's a racist?  I see him creating Opportunity Zones in minority neighborhoods.  I see him giving Historically Black Colleges & Universities more money than they evver had and for a longer term than even Obama gave them.  I see minority uneployment pre-COVID being the lowest ever in history.  I see criminal justice reform finally being passed that corrected the unfair treatment of blacks in the criminal justice system.  I see him fighting for charter schools and school choice that benefits parent in primarily minority school dstricts because the public schools suck and they can't afford to send their kids to Sidwell Friends like Obama did.  I see people like Herschel Walker and Alveda King saying that he's a champion for the economic and educational advancement of minorities, moreso than any Democrat whose empty promises have done nothing to help minorities. 

What has he done to prove that he's a fascist?  Did he sign 60+ EO's in his first week in office?  Did he take over private businesses, or enact federal mandates that violated states' rights?  Did he build a razor-wire wall around the Capitol and place thousands of troops to defend it?  Where exactly is the fascism?



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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2021-03-06 11:51 AM (#775923 - in reply to #775887)
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PV29 - 2021-03-06 10:39 AM

Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-05 11:51 PM  I don’t think it’s that tough to understand... money, the stock market, profit, brand pride, tv commercials, advertisers...etc etc etc is the dividing line of what’s politically correct... again, Chris Matthews, a big liberal, 30 years MSNBC highly decorated broadcaster .. FIRED .... Canceled in one night for using a bad analogy about the Holocaust that offended Bernie Sanders... Al Franken major liberal Senator, on a military comedy tour in the Middle East. with a military comedian woman.. she fell asleep on the plane, and he pretended to grab her breast.... Canceled. Mean while there’s photos of her roasting him, while he feel asleep. My point of this thread is, this is nothing new. But since Trump, who is openly old Archie Bunker, bigot, racist, fascist, sexist who stirred the pot like a third world country dictator, has made it appear it’s okay for everyone else to be outwardly disgusting. But it’s not okay, to be these things at work, you’re free to say anything you want, but, again there’s a reason why the KKK wore hoods!

 

I kinda understand how Trump's style is too coarse for some, but I have no clue why people insist that he's racist, bigoted or a fascist.

What has he done that proves that he's a racist?  I see him creating Opportunity Zones in minority neighborhoods.  I see him giving Historically Black Colleges & Universities more money than they evver had and for a longer term than even Obama gave them.  I see minority uneployment pre-COVID being the lowest ever in history.  I see criminal justice reform finally being passed that corrected the unfair treatment of blacks in the criminal justice system.  I see him fighting for charter schools and school choice that benefits parent in primarily minority school dstricts because the public schools suck and they can't afford to send their kids to Sidwell Friends like Obama did.  I see people like Herschel Walker and Alveda King saying that he's a champion for the economic and educational advancement of minorities, moreso than any Democrat whose empty promises have done nothing to help minorities. 

What has he done to prove that he's a fascist?  Did he sign 60+ EO's in his first week in office?  Did he take over private businesses, or enact federal mandates that violated states' rights?  Did he build a razor-wire wall around the Capitol and place thousands of troops to defend it?  Where exactly is the fascism?



I think Trump is several things, one, he’s an old school rich Archie Bunker, who doesn’t realize what he says is bigotry or racist or sexist... his social mentality is stuck in the 60s and 70s... Two, he panders to one side, and one race alienating the others.

These things below are fact, recorded out of the mouth of Trump, mostly unreported by the right wing news.

He attacked Muslim Gold Star Parents

He claimed a Judge was biased because “ he was Mexican”.

The justice Dept sued his company - twice - for not renting to black people. In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career. He’s on recorded record by saying “you don’t want to live with them neither”.

He refused to condemn the white supremacist who are campaigning for him. David Duke and dozens of racist, kkk, white power groups openly support him.

He started the whole thing about Obama not being American.

Right out of Hitlers book “mein kampf” Trump made himself and his race, victims, he made people feel sorry for him because the Jew - Black driven left were out to get him, then said, I’m trying to protect you, I guess they hate you too. Exactly what Hitler did in his book, then he made it a Nationalism cry of MAGA by saying Mexicans were the reasons for the problems in their lives... Like Hitler did with the Jews.

He completely went after and “canceled cultured” black NFL players for kneeling during the nation anthem. At a rally he called black NFL players “sons of bitches”... in other words he called their mothers bitches! Sons of bitches is considered, in the black community as a racist remark.... Black mothers are the corner stone of the black family, mostly as single mothers....Every black Church in America made this point known, Trump calling black mothers bitches.

He called BLM a terrorist group, but didn’t say the same about Nazi-white Supremest groups.

He treats racial groups as monoliths... “I have black friends so I’m not racist!

He cordoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protestor

He called white supporters who beat on a homeless Latino Man “passionate”

He stereotyped Jews and shared anti-Semitic views shared by Hitler and White Supremacists.

He treats African - Americans as tokens to dispel the idea he’s a racist.

He calls a group of Americans, who are Anti Fascist- politically partisan, multi nationality and all religions, that show up only to oppose Nazi - white Supremest marches... Terrorist! Then calls the White Supremest “ good people”.

About African immigrants , Trump said “Africa was a bunch of shithole nations, why can’t we have more immigrants from (white) Norway.”The next day the president put an ad in the Times listing why Norwegians, and many other European countries aren’t coming to America anymore! Guns, income equality, poor education, the evangelical cult... etc etc etc...

He said all Mexicans are rapist and thieves,,, and very few are good ones.

'These aren’t people. These are animals.' When referring to Latinos on the border.

Dozens of white - Nazi Supremest Militia groups stormed the Capital on his behalf .. When you’re charging the Capital and the person too the left and right of you believe all Jews and people of color should die, you have a problem. That’s why there’s wired fencing, because racist groups and QAnon tried to over throw the Government making Trump a fascist.

The list goes on and on and on, and you can try to defined it or deny it, or say it’s fake news, or taken out of context... but people aren’t stupid, when it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck.... ! There’s a reason why 96% of “Other” non white people voted against Trump, only 4% voted for him. And all the people that voted against (10 million voted independent) are socialist, CNN zombies.

. I want a Republican Party, but they don’t want me, the candidates that I support or supported are to moderate, aren’t evangelical cult members, FOX Nazis. The fear of socialism has backed The GOP supporters into fascism and nationalism. I’m right in the middle, with the constitution. ...worried the communist to the left and Fascist to the right might win... what every swings hard to the right, swings even further to the left...



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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-06 12:07 PM (#775929 - in reply to #775289)
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WOW!!

I know you don't really believe these "facts"....NO WAY

Just for one he NEVER said "black players" NEVER! He said any player that kneels is a SOB, there were white kneelers also!! Just one more, he denounced white supremacy groups multiple times.

sleepy joe has said blacks are super predators. He's not racist. sleepy joe has said you can't find a DD that's not owned by someone from India, he's not racist. He said Obumma is a well spoken black guy, it's a fairytale man, he's not a racist. He has said more racist things that Trump ever did. You aint black if you don't for me, are you on cocaine?

You hate Trump so he's a racist, you probably voted or like joe so he isn't Got it
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PV29
Posted 2021-03-06 12:15 PM (#775937 - in reply to #775289)
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The "fine people" hoax was debunked during the impeachment trial. The full statement without edits and cuts was played by Trump's lawyers and millions saw it for the first time. Please stop perpetuating that lie.

He doesn't back down when Leftists call him "racist". The gold star father was a prop during the 2015-16 election and Trump called him out for his statements, NOT for his ethnicity.

He never said that all Mexicans are rapists, etc. He said that there are bad people among those who are crossing the border illegally. The twisting of his statements by a diabolical Leftist media is ridiculous.

He called people "animals" based on their ACTIONS, not their ethnicity. The things that the cartels and the human traffickers do definitely qualifies them as animals.

His daughter is married to a Jewish guy, his grandkids are being raised orthodox Jewish, he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and he prayed at the wailing wall with a yarmulke on. How the hell is that antisemitic or bigoted? Again, I think the hatred for the man blinds people to reality, combined with a hostile corporate media that takes issue with everything he says or does. Democrats presented false and altered evidence during the last impeachment trial, what makes anyone think that they won't lie in the media.

Trump is a threat to the status quo. The globalists and the elites that want total power and wealth while you and I struggle for the crumbs they leave behind. Pre-COVID the middle class, of all races, did much better under Trump than any other president since Reagan. The wealth gap was reduced and the elites/globalists of Wall Street and Silicone Valley hated him for that. They brand him "racist" and "bigot" because that's all they have. Trump eroded the voting base of Democrats in the black and Latino community. That is a fact. David Shor wrote recently in New Yorker Mag about this. He's not exactly conservative and the New Yorker ain't Breitbart.

"White voters as a whole trended toward the Democratic Party, and nonwhite voters trended away from us. So we’re now somewhere between 2004 and 2008 in terms of racial polarization. Which is interesting. I don’t think a lot of people expected Donald Trump’s GOP to have a much more diverse support base than Mitt Romney’s did in 2012. But that’s what happened."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/03/david-shor-2020-democrats-au...

People eventually get to the truth. Democrats have taken working class minorities for granted for decades. They're finding Trump's policies and the fact that he does what he says he'll do much more appealing. If Trump was a racist then why are minorities supporting him more than they've ever supported a Republican before?
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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-06 12:21 PM (#775940 - in reply to #775289)
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He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.
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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-06 1:22 PM (#775982 - in reply to #775289)
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PV29 2024!!
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2021-03-06 1:23 PM (#775983 - in reply to #775940)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-03-06 2:21 PM

He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.


He’s been called a racist his whole life.


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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-06 3:17 PM (#775994 - in reply to #775983)
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Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-06 3:23 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-06 2:21 PM

He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.


He’s been called a racist his whole life.




I'm guessing that's another "fact"......Ok
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PV29
Posted 2021-03-06 5:59 PM (#776001 - in reply to #775940)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-03-06 2:21 PM He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.

 

Before 2015 he was invited to functions with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the Clintons, etc.  Were they inviting a known racist?  Did Trump suddenly become a racist in 2015?

So ridiculous.

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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2021-03-06 9:25 PM (#776005 - in reply to #776001)
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PV29 - 2021-03-06 7:59 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-06 2:21 PM He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.

 

Before 2015 he was invited to functions with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the Clintons, etc.  Were they inviting a known racist?  Did Trump suddenly become a racist in 2015?

So ridiculous.



He and his father have been racist slumlords for decades.... look at all the racist lawsuits against them since the 60s, 70s and 8os .... who gives a crap about his corrupt outings with lowlife liberals! ... like you lot said, he rubbed elbows with the libs for profit! I can’t believe you guys have such a hardon for a complete scam artist.




Edited by Andy Bathgate 2021-03-06 9:27 PM
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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-07 1:01 PM (#776014 - in reply to #776005)
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Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-06 11:25 PM

PV29 - 2021-03-06 7:59 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-06 2:21 PM He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.

 

Before 2015 he was invited to functions with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the Clintons, etc.  Were they inviting a known racist?  Did Trump suddenly become a racist in 2015?

So ridiculous.



He and his father have been racist slumlords for decades.... look at all the racist lawsuits against them since the 60s, 70s and 8os .... who gives a crap about his corrupt outings with lowlife liberals! ... like you lot said, he rubbed elbows with the libs for profit! I can’t believe you guys have such a hardon for a complete scam artist.




Blah blah blah

You are blinded by hate, or you just believe what you're told like all sheep..

You probably preach tolerance and yet you're probably the most intolerant person here, just like all liberals...

I kinda feel bad for you, but I believe you will realize the truth someday.
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2021-03-08 11:14 AM (#776164 - in reply to #776014)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-03-07 3:01 PM

Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-06 11:25 PM

PV29 - 2021-03-06 7:59 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-06 2:21 PM He has been in the limelight for years and no one ever accused him of being a racist until he became the republican nominee.

 

Before 2015 he was invited to functions with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the Clintons, etc.  Were they inviting a known racist?  Did Trump suddenly become a racist in 2015?

So ridiculous.



He and his father have been racist slumlords for decades.... look at all the racist lawsuits against them since the 60s, 70s and 8os .... who gives a crap about his corrupt outings with lowlife liberals! ... like you lot said, he rubbed elbows with the libs for profit! I can’t believe you guys have such a hardon for a complete scam artist.




Blah blah blah

You are blinded by hate, or you just believe what you're told like all sheep..

You probably preach tolerance and yet you're probably the most intolerant person here, just like all liberals...

I kinda feel bad for you, but I believe you will realize the truth someday.


Typical response from a poorly informed FOX - Hannity zombie, when you have nothing intelligent to say, you get aggressive and personal, do you also feel bad for close to 90 million American independent and Liberal voters that agree with me? Will we all realize the truth one day? Hope you’re not putting money on that!

Look at the key States Trump lost, look how much he lost by, then look at the Independent (moderate) vote, we decided the results! We gave him a chanced, he sucked! CANCELED!!! And yes do, please start a new party!

While you feel bad for me, pray for me also! I have tons of those coming from my evangelical family cult members!



LGR!
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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-08 11:28 AM (#776165 - in reply to #775289)
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Saying you're blinded by hate, or just believe whatever you're told is aggressive ???

Now I can understand your irrational thinking a little more, you simply don't have a clue.

Still feeling sorry for you.

But LGR I agree!

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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2021-03-08 12:49 PM (#776168 - in reply to #776165)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-03-08 1:28 PM

Saying you're blinded by hate, or just believe whatever you're told is aggressive ???

Now I can understand your irrational thinking a little more, you simply don't have a clue.

Still feeling sorry for you.

But LGR I agree!


Yeah! The 90 million plus - clueless club, please pray for us also




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Cap'nMess
Posted 2021-03-08 2:13 PM (#776169 - in reply to #776168)
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Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-08 2:49 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-08 1:28 PM

Saying you're blinded by hate, or just believe whatever you're told is aggressive ???

Now I can understand your irrational thinking a little more, you simply don't have a clue.

Still feeling sorry for you.

But LGR I agree!


Yeah! The 90 million plus - clueless club, please pray for us also








Cry for help heard!
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Andy Bathgate
Posted 2021-03-08 4:16 PM (#776170 - in reply to #776169)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-03-08 4:13 PM

Andy Bathgate - 2021-03-08 2:49 PM

Cap'nMess - 2021-03-08 1:28 PM

Saying you're blinded by hate, or just believe whatever you're told is aggressive ???

Now I can understand your irrational thinking a little more, you simply don't have a clue.

Still feeling sorry for you.

But LGR I agree!


Yeah! The 90 million plus - clueless club, please pray for us also








Cry for help heard!


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Blue404
Posted 2021-05-07 10:44 AM (#779562 - in reply to #775289)
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Be less white

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