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Fish
Posted 2021-07-22 8:25 AM (#780279 - in reply to #779645)
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Posted 2021-07-22 9:48 AM (#780283 - in reply to #779645)
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Which tells me his neck is fukkkkkked and the Sabres know it.
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Posted 2021-07-22 10:48 AM (#780291 - in reply to #780279)
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Fish - 2021-07-22 11:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As speculation re Eichel mounts, can tell you that Rangers have still not received access to his medical records from Sabres. So, there is nothing close at this point.</p>— Larry Brooks (@NYP_Brooksie) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/1418198742080139269?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote>


Wow.
This guy has been on the block for months and the Rangers have not seen his medical records?
Do the Rangers have to give up a pick just to see the records?
Buff so clueless.
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Posted 2021-07-22 11:51 AM (#780298 - in reply to #780291)
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x10003q - 2021-07-22 9:48 AM

Fish - 2021-07-22 11:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As speculation re Eichel mounts, can tell you that Rangers have still not received access to his medical records from Sabres. So, there is nothing close at this point.</p>— Larry Brooks (@NYP_Brooksie) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/1418198742080139269?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote>


Wow.
This guy has been on the block for months and the Rangers have not seen his medical records?
Do the Rangers have to give up a pick just to see the records?
Buff so clueless.




Drury is at a defining moment in his early tenure. If he trades for Eichel it better be at a deep discount no matter what his records are, and what the looking in the crystal ball Dr’s have to say. He’s a risk. At the very least this better be some of the assets up front and the payoff if he produces, performs and survives a couple seasons. And Buffalo needs to eat a chunk 1/3 of his salary. Something like Strome, Jones, Reanunen, and then a first after a couple seasons of usefulness. He’s bargain basement stuff. Drury needs to play hardball Buffalo is running out of partners and there is a serious chasm between Eichel and Buffalo.
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Posted 2021-07-23 8:35 AM (#780313 - in reply to #779645)
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Posted 2021-07-23 9:03 AM (#780314 - in reply to #779645)
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Posted 2021-07-23 12:25 PM (#780320 - in reply to #779645)
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Posted 2021-07-23 12:30 PM (#780321 - in reply to #779645)
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If Ristolainen can get a 1st, 2nd and Hagg...can't imagine what they're expecting for Eichel
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Posted 2021-07-23 12:31 PM (#780322 - in reply to #780314)
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lots of things percolating around the NHL. Way too early to call what direction the Sabres are going with Eichel. However, teams with interest are encouraged by the fact Jack is training hard and skating. Good sign of where he feels his health is at.</p>— Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1418599325005983746?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote>



So who’s right medical we have heard he wants to have a disc replacement done. In Dregors world he is training hard and skating. So he doesn’t need treatment or what. Posters say Buchnevich and Strome both have to go because of cap, Eichel will turn the Rangerscap upside down.
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Posted 2021-07-23 12:33 PM (#780323 - in reply to #779645)
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yes, I think the cap turns into a boot with Eichel
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Posted 2021-07-23 7:23 PM (#780398 - in reply to #779645)
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From a Sabres beat writer

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Posted 2021-07-25 8:43 PM (#780450 - in reply to #779645)
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/big-week-potential-jack-eichel-...

My guesses right now are some combination of Anaheim, Calgary, Minnesota and others I’m probably missing. Teammate Eric Engels reported Sunday he doesn’t think it will be Montreal. From what I’ve heard, the Canadiens have engaged, but not anywhere near a point Buffalo would say yes. The Rangers and Sabres have not been close in their conversations.


Friedman goes on to say he thinks Eichel still may require surgery


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Posted 2021-07-26 3:07 AM (#780451 - in reply to #780450)
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Fish - 2021-07-25 10:43 PM

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/big-week-potential-jack-eichel-...

My guesses right now are some combination of Anaheim, Calgary, Minnesota and others I’m probably missing. Teammate Eric Engels reported Sunday he doesn’t think it will be Montreal. From what I’ve heard, the Canadiens have engaged, but not anywhere near a point Buffalo would say yes. The Rangers and Sabres have not been close in their conversations.


Friedman goes on to say he thinks Eichel still may require surgery


I thought it was a given that whatever decision he made, he was going to miss the beginning of the new season anyway (I believe the time frame was at least 2 months). Guess I was wrong.
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Posted 2021-07-26 4:44 AM (#780452 - in reply to #780321)
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Fish - 2021-07-23 12:30 PM

If Ristolainen can get a 1st, 2nd and Hagg...can't imagine what they're expecting for Eichel



Other GM's don't judge value based off of what the retard Flyers do. Ristolainen is a terrible defensive defenseman. Always has been.
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Posted 2021-07-26 8:38 AM (#780454 - in reply to #779645)
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The Rangers are crazy to trade for Eichel. On his best day has he ever been as good as Zibanejad was two years ago before the league shutdown. They acquire Eichel and Zibanejad is gone, no way they can keep him. The Rangers can start negotiating in January if Zibanejads play warrants it.. Last year as reported a few veterans had issues with Quinn, I think Drury knows that and expects a revitalized Zibanejad. The market value contract based on a excellent start is going to be waiting for Zibanejad, we will see how bad he wants it.
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Posted 2021-07-26 11:22 AM (#780464 - in reply to #780454)
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LaFrenger - 2021-07-26 10:38 AM

The Rangers are crazy to trade for Eichel. On his best day has he ever been as good as Zibanejad was two years ago before the league shutdown. They acquire Eichel and Zibanejad is gone, no way they can keep him. The Rangers can start negotiating in January if Zibanejads play warrants it.. Last year as reported a few veterans had issues with Quinn, I think Drury knows that and expects a revitalized Zibanejad. The market value contract based on a excellent start is going to be waiting for Zibanejad, we will see how bad he wants it.


2 years ago he had 3 more points than Zib did that year playing on probably the worst team in Hockey.

I'm not saying I'm for Eichel and his 10 mill per year, but that contract is over when he's 30. How many years are they going to give Zib, and how much money? If he is better than Eichel, then we can assume he would get close to the 10 per and maybe 6-7 years? Which means at the end of his contract he would be 36 or 37.

If Eichel didn't have the injury issue, he would be the smart choice. Their talent is comparable, but Eichel is the younger of the two and you're only paying him until he's just past Zib's age right now.
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Posted 2021-07-26 11:28 AM (#780465 - in reply to #779645)
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We will see. I do think Drury would like to make some kind of splash. I just hope its smarter than what he did with Buch.
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Posted 2021-07-26 3:38 PM (#780475 - in reply to #780464)
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Cap'nMess - 2021-07-26 10:22 AM

LaFrenger - 2021-07-26 10:38 AM

The Rangers are crazy to trade for Eichel. On his best day has he ever been as good as Zibanejad was two years ago before the league shutdown. They acquire Eichel and Zibanejad is gone, no way they can keep him. The Rangers can start negotiating in January if Zibanejads play warrants it.. Last year as reported a few veterans had issues with Quinn, I think Drury knows that and expects a revitalized Zibanejad. The market value contract based on a excellent start is going to be waiting for Zibanejad, we will see how bad he wants it.


2 years ago he had 3 more points than Zib did that year playing on probably the worst team in Hockey.

I'm not saying I'm for Eichel and his 10 mill per year, but that contract is over when he's 30. How many years are they going to give Zib, and how much money? If he is better than Eichel, then we can assume he would get close to the 10 per and maybe 6-7 years? Which means at the end of his contract he would be 36 or 37.

If Eichel didn't have the injury issue, he would be the smart choice. Their talent is comparable, but Eichel is the younger of the two and you're only paying him until he's just past Zib's age right now.




Many’s the guy who lights it up for a crap team. When your always on the low end of scores teams with the lead let up. The Rangers were battling for a playoff spot, I think would have made it, they were rolling along. Talk was Zibanejad in the league MVP conversation. But my point is more Eichel is not worth the risk health wise. Toss in his injury, salary, term, and question marks about how good a player is he as a competitor!? No thanks.
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Posted 2021-07-27 6:21 PM (#780506 - in reply to #779645)
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Posted 2021-07-28 7:45 AM (#780515 - in reply to #779645)
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There's a chance the Eichel stuff gets resolved today, but I'm thinking it drags on a bit more
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Posted 2021-07-30 8:49 PM (#780607 - in reply to #779645)
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Posted 2021-07-31 4:19 AM (#780608 - in reply to #780607)
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Fish - 2021-07-30 10:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jack Eichel’s agents issue the following statement: <a href="https://t.co/tiPXShdchz">pic.twitter.com/tiPXShdchz</a></p>— John Vogl (@BuffaloVogl) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloVogl/status/1421285217415880711?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote>


Toby, it seems to me there's A LOT going on that the public doesn't know because there are way too many questions that remain unanswered. It seems that both sides agree that he needs some kind of surgery....Sad-brays would prefer traditional spinal fusion (which has been the standard); JE wants the replacement. The only sports people who have had the replacement are UTF and rugby players -- the odd factor in this is the fact that not one of JE's people have brought forth info on how those UTF and rugby players fared after their surgery.

The other oddity is the fact that JE wants the surgery because the prescribed "rest and rehab" have not alleviated the problem...yet, according to reports, he's been skating regularly.

Something is very fishy in Buffalo.
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Posted 2021-07-31 7:45 AM (#780611 - in reply to #779645)
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I don't see the need for Eichel. Rangers biggest problems were they are still too young, their defense core is still incomplete as some huge pieces aren't ready yet, the third and 4th lines were terrible and the team was full of soft pansies. Two of those problems have been fixed. The defense is still very young and will get younger the next couple years.
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Posted 2021-07-31 8:20 AM (#780613 - in reply to #779645)
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Rangers need a tough center that can win a faceoff when needed. Haven't had one since.... forever...Mess, Lindros, bernie Nichols,Holik and Mark Janssens were all good face off guys.

Go get a guy that can win 55% or above....They are hard to find...
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Posted 2021-07-31 7:07 PM (#780621 - in reply to #779645)
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So Brooks today suggests that including Kakko might get the deal done, but only IF the Sabres retain half of Eichel's $10M salary...

https://nypost.com/2021/07/31/kaapo-kakko-may-be-rangers-key-to-jack...
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