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Fish
Posted 2021-11-23 10:55 AM (#783116)
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Looks like they'll persist with Hunt on the top line, with him lining up with Zibanejad and Kreider. As bad as his shot is, he does seem to be able to go and retrieve the puck, and is pretty solid on the forecheck, so maybe it'll work a bit. I'm thinking it probably won't though, and I do wonder if it might be worth putting Gauthier on that line given the ways he's been playing, though Gauthier too still has finishing problems, and maybe too much like Kreider in the way he plays.
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2021-11-23 11:27 AM (#783117 - in reply to #783116)
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Wow the Z K Hunt line
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Fish
Posted 2021-11-24 11:10 AM (#783123 - in reply to #783116)
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Gallant was a bit coy at practice today, mixed the lines up, had Kakko skating with Kreider and Zibanejad and then Hunt with Strome and Panarin....also suggested there would be a minor surprise, so I guess we'll wait and see who lines up with whom
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PV29
Posted 2021-11-24 1:03 PM (#783124 - in reply to #783123)
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Gallant understands the value of a grinder on the "top line". It's one of the reasons why I wanted him as coach of the Rangers. He played on a team where he and Bob Probert were wingers with Steve Yzerman. Gallant scored 93 points (39 goals) and had 230 PIMs in 1988-89 while being a "top line" winger with Yzerman. Some may say that the game has changed since Gallant played, but the basics are still the same. Any first line needs a grinder with strength and courage to get the puck out of the corners, stand in front of the net, and occasionally throw down with an opponent who takes liberties with your star players.

Hunt is not Gallant from the 80's and early 90's, but he has the wheels to keep up and the balls to do the dirty work.
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itsmcilrathtime
Posted 2021-11-24 1:27 PM (#783125 - in reply to #783116)
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A grinder on the top line is fucking stupid. Was there a grinder on the top line for Tampa? Or Washington? Or Boston? Or St. Louis? Fuck no.
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PV29
Posted 2021-11-24 2:34 PM (#783126 - in reply to #783125)
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itsmcilrathtime - 2021-11-24 3:27 PM A grinder on the top line is fucking stupid. Was there a grinder on the top line for Tampa? Or Washington? Or Boston? Or St. Louis? Fuck no.

 

2018 Capitals had Tom Wilson opposite Ovechkin with Kuznetsov in the middle.

 

2019 Blues had Sammy Blais on the wing opposite David Perron with Ryan O'Reilly at center.

 

Before he became an established scorer, Brad Marchand was a grinder, and he still plays with an edge that compliments Pasternak and Bergeron.

 

Tampa has Palat on their top line, a grinding forward who can also score.  He averages around 100 hits per season on their top line.

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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2021-11-24 4:20 PM (#783127 - in reply to #783126)
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PV29 - 2021-11-24 4:34 PM

itsmcilrathtime - 2021-11-24 3:27 PM A grinder on the top line is fucking stupid. Was there a grinder on the top line for Tampa? Or Washington? Or Boston? Or St. Louis? Fuck no.

 

2018 Capitals had Tom Wilson opposite Ovechkin with Kuznetsov in the middle.

 

2019 Blues had Sammy Blais on the wing opposite David Perron with Ryan O'Reilly at center.

 

Before he became an established scorer, Brad Marchand was a grinder, and he still plays with an edge that compliments Pasternak and Bergeron.

 

Tampa has Palat on their top line, a grinding forward who can also score.  He averages around 100 hits per season on their top line.

Yeah but... other than those..... LOL...

 

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LaFrenger
Posted 2021-11-24 4:27 PM (#783129 - in reply to #783127)
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Pierre_Pdare - 2021-11-24 3:20 PM

PV29 - 2021-11-24 4:34 PM

itsmcilrathtime - 2021-11-24 3:27 PM A grinder on the top line is fucking stupid. Was there a grinder on the top line for Tampa? Or Washington? Or Boston? Or St. Louis? Fuck no.

 

2018 Capitals had Tom Wilson opposite Ovechkin with Kuznetsov in the middle.

 

2019 Blues had Sammy Blais on the wing opposite David Perron with Ryan O'Reilly at center.

 

Before he became an established scorer, Brad Marchand was a grinder, and he still plays with an edge that compliments Pasternak and Bergeron.

 

Tampa has Palat on their top line, a grinding forward who can also score.  He averages around 100 hits per season on their top line.

Yeah but... other than those..... LOL...

 

 

 

Lol.

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Steady Eddie
Posted 2021-11-24 4:34 PM (#783131 - in reply to #783129)
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LaFrenger - 2021-11-24 6:27 PM

Pierre_Pdare - 2021-11-24 3:20 PM

PV29 - 2021-11-24 4:34 PM

itsmcilrathtime - 2021-11-24 3:27 PM A grinder on the top line is fucking stupid. Was there a grinder on the top line for Tampa? Or Washington? Or Boston? Or St. Louis? Fuck no.

 

2018 Capitals had Tom Wilson opposite Ovechkin with Kuznetsov in the middle.

 

2019 Blues had Sammy Blais on the wing opposite David Perron with Ryan O'Reilly at center.

 

Before he became an established scorer, Brad Marchand was a grinder, and he still plays with an edge that compliments Pasternak and Bergeron.

 

Tampa has Palat on their top line, a grinding forward who can also score.  He averages around 100 hits per season on their top line.

Yeah but... other than those..... LOL...

 

 

 

Lol.



To fuel the fire, Hadfield was a grinder before he was added to Ratelle-Gilbert. Graves was a grinder before he was paired with Messier.

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PV29
Posted 2021-11-24 5:04 PM (#783133 - in reply to #783116)
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Extreme example: Dave Semenko was a winger with Gretzky and Kurri. Later on, Semenko was replaced by Tikkanen.

Probably the greatest example: Ted Lindsay, the ultimate grinder, with Sid Abel and Gordie Howe.

Honorable mentions:

Gilles was the left wing with Trottier and Bossy.

Charlie Simmer, at 6’3? and 210 pounds, was the key addition to the Triple Crown Line with Marcel Dionne and Dave Taylor.

Bill Barber became a HoF'er after getting put on a line with Clarke and Leach.

Kevin Stevens was a stone handed bruiser but scored 180+ goals over 4 seasons because he was on a line with Lemieux and Jagr.

More modern example:
Zach Hyman (before he left), with Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner. Now Nick Ritchie is on that wing.

Oh, and Hyman is now the winger with McDavid and Pulijarvi.

But yeah, it's a fucking stupid idea.

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LaFrenger
Posted 2021-11-25 7:43 AM (#783251 - in reply to #783133)
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PV29 - 2021-11-24 4:04 PM Extreme example: Dave Semenko was a winger with Gretzky and Kurri. Later on, Semenko was replaced by Tikkanen. Probably the greatest example: Ted Lindsay, the ultimate grinder, with Sid Abel and Gordie Howe. Honorable mentions: Gilles was the left wing with Trottier and Bossy. Charlie Simmer, at 6’3? and 210 pounds, was the key addition to the Triple Crown Line with Marcel Dionne and Dave Taylor. Bill Barber became a HoF'er after getting put on a line with Clarke and Leach. Kevin Stevens was a stone handed bruiser but scored 180+ goals over 4 seasons because he was on a line with Lemieux and Jagr. More modern example: Zach Hyman (before he left), with Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner. Now Nick Ritchie is on that wing. Oh, and Hyman is now the winger with McDavid and Pulijarvi. But yeah, it's a fucking stupid idea.

 

 

Is that all you got? 

 

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Posted 2021-11-25 8:10 AM (#783253 - in reply to #783251)
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LaFrenger - 2021-11-25 10:43 AM

PV29 - 2021-11-24 4:04 PM Extreme example: Dave Semenko was a winger with Gretzky and Kurri. Later on, Semenko was replaced by Tikkanen. Probably the greatest example: Ted Lindsay, the ultimate grinder, with Sid Abel and Gordie Howe. Honorable mentions: Gilles was the left wing with Trottier and Bossy. Charlie Simmer, at 6’3? and 210 pounds, was the key addition to the Triple Crown Line with Marcel Dionne and Dave Taylor. Bill Barber became a HoF'er after getting put on a line with Clarke and Leach. Kevin Stevens was a stone handed bruiser but scored 180+ goals over 4 seasons because he was on a line with Lemieux and Jagr. More modern example: Zach Hyman (before he left), with Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner. Now Nick Ritchie is on that wing. Oh, and Hyman is now the winger with McDavid and Pulijarvi. But yeah, it's a fucking stupid idea.

 

 

Is that all you got? 

 



Rene Robert on the French Connection line - undrafted grinder type
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Pierre_Pdare
Posted 2021-11-25 8:46 AM (#783254 - in reply to #783116)
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Todd Bertuzzi was on a line with Marcus Naslund and Brendan Morrison that I recall was pretty tough.
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